I'm thinking of putting 25 feet of 1/2 copper around the stack as a preheater that will drip into my 2x4 flat pan . Is it worth it and second what about when I've got no more sap left do I run water in it so that it won't burn ? Thx
Coil around stack
I'm thinking of putting 25 feet of 1/2 copper around the stack as a preheater that will drip into my 2x4 flat pan . Is it worth it and second what about when I've got no more sap left do I run water in it so that it won't burn ? Thx
I know a lot of people have done this with mixed results. I do it and it works well for me. I have a 1/2 pint which is 24 x 33 and it's boils about 6.5 to 7 gallons per hour. I have 7 full coils (about 11 feet) of 3/8 copper around the 6 inch flue pipe. I used some thin wire to pull the coil tight against the pipe. I average 130- 165 F out of the coil. I flush out the coil with permeate water after I stop sap flow and I only see a slight bit of brown sap when I restart the sap flow. I feed the pan from my RO system so I pump into the coil continuously as long as the RO is running. I've been doing this all season with no ill affects.
Leader 1/2 pint - Kawasaki Mule - Smoky Lake Filter Bottler
24 GPH RO, 2 1/2 x 40 NF3 (NF270), 140 GPH (Brass with no relief valve ) ProCon pump
2013 - 44 taps - 16 gallons syrup, 2014 - 109 taps - 26 gallons syrup
2015 - 71 taps - 13.5 gallons syrup, 2016 - 125 taps - 24.25 gallons syrup
2017 - 129 taps - 17.5 gallons syrup, 2018 - 128 taps- 18 gallons syrup
2019 -130 taps - 18.5 gallons syrup, 2020 ~125 taps-19.75 gallons syrup
I suggest using 3/8, make sure you put a vent in the top. I used insulation and sheet metal on the outside. I am sure I posted some pictures.
I did the copper tubing around the stack last year. I am looking to change it this year though.
I maybe am to blame as my bucket that fed the coil was only a 5 gallon pail with a spout at the bottom, many times it would run dry and sap would not be in the coil.
So, when I r- filled the 5 gallon bucket it would hiss and steam, black burnt sap would exit first for 5-8 seconds which I would catch and toss out. If I had a larger container and it never ran empty, maybe I would keep that system.
I just didn't like the copper against the pipe with no sap running through it. Wish it was removable. There is a member here that has a system with springs and removable, that I like.
2011- 35 taps, ,,,milk juggs and buckets-propane turkey fryer !!
2012 -75 taps,,,,, 40 on tubing into buckets, and 35 buckets - 3nd hand Homemade arch, brutal.
2013- Just over 115 taps and still adding more.
2014, new SS flat pan and new arch built, guessing 75-100 taps this year.
2015, 50 taps on Shurflo pump.
2016- Getting a line across my creek this year.
2017-took a year off, Jamaica was fun !
2018- 45 trees tapped, keeping it fun !
What do you know about this removable system how is it built ? I'm running a oil tank evaporator with a 2x4 flat pan in the back and a 1x2 in the front I hope to get a gph of about 12+.
Let me check some of my earlier posts. It will be there, cant remember the name of the person off hand.
BRB with their name.
2011- 35 taps, ,,,milk juggs and buckets-propane turkey fryer !!
2012 -75 taps,,,,, 40 on tubing into buckets, and 35 buckets - 3nd hand Homemade arch, brutal.
2013- Just over 115 taps and still adding more.
2014, new SS flat pan and new arch built, guessing 75-100 taps this year.
2015, 50 taps on Shurflo pump.
2016- Getting a line across my creek this year.
2017-took a year off, Jamaica was fun !
2018- 45 trees tapped, keeping it fun !
Hey Woodburn. I cant find the post with the name, darn.
Anyway, his design is copper coil but not the way around the pipe maybe 3/4 way around, then downward, then 3/4 around etc,,, then used springs to keep it tight where it didn't come around. When he was done giving new sap, off came the springs and he removes the copper coil away from the stack.
Maybe someone here knows who I am talking about. He has pics of his set up and looks real good.
Hope that helps some.
2011- 35 taps, ,,,milk juggs and buckets-propane turkey fryer !!
2012 -75 taps,,,,, 40 on tubing into buckets, and 35 buckets - 3nd hand Homemade arch, brutal.
2013- Just over 115 taps and still adding more.
2014, new SS flat pan and new arch built, guessing 75-100 taps this year.
2015, 50 taps on Shurflo pump.
2016- Getting a line across my creek this year.
2017-took a year off, Jamaica was fun !
2018- 45 trees tapped, keeping it fun !
It's Johnny Cuervo. Not sure if he is Jose's brother. Anyway, I couldn't find the thread with a quick search just now, but it's there somewhere. I was just looking at it a couple of months ago.
Sean
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Around 300 taps on tubing, 25+ on buckets if I put them out
Mix of natural and mechanical vac, S3 Controller from Mountain Maple
2x6 W.F. Mason with Phaneuf pans
Deer Run 250 RO
Ford F350
6+ hives of bees (if they make it through the winters)
Keeping the day job until I can start living the dream.
Yes, Thanks SeanD,
I found his pics below in his signature. I hope this link works to his pics.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5753509...57601539320490
Great idea !!
2011- 35 taps, ,,,milk juggs and buckets-propane turkey fryer !!
2012 -75 taps,,,,, 40 on tubing into buckets, and 35 buckets - 3nd hand Homemade arch, brutal.
2013- Just over 115 taps and still adding more.
2014, new SS flat pan and new arch built, guessing 75-100 taps this year.
2015, 50 taps on Shurflo pump.
2016- Getting a line across my creek this year.
2017-took a year off, Jamaica was fun !
2018- 45 trees tapped, keeping it fun !
Here are a few shots of mine.
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