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    It's printed right on it. It'll say Semi-Rigide or Rigide on there. They spell it Canadian-like, haha.

    I could tell it was the wrong stuff from across the room because the color is just a bit of a different shade.
    More taps than the year before. Bigger shack than the year before. Leader Patriot 2x6 w/hood. 3-post Dolly, but still too much sap and not enough wood or time.
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    Good luck with your tubing system. I made a lot of mistakes the first year trying to conserve, and using my own ideas.
    Second years I changed most of it back to more conventional. I had some "y's" in the drops, some drops to short and did not have a good way to tighten the system. I just took out some drops yesterday that were a little on the short side. All the new ones are now 30 inch. I used the Leader max flow for drop lines. I like the extra flexibility compared to the stiff 30P drops. I did come up with a design to allow the main lines (5/16) tight.
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    How do you keep it tight? Tricks? Ideas?


    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarmaker View Post
    Good luck with your tubing system. I made a lot of mistakes the first year trying to conserve, and using my own ideas.
    Second years I changed most of it back to more conventional. I had some "y's" in the drops, some drops to short and did not have a good way to tighten the system. I just took out some drops yesterday that were a little on the short side. All the new ones are now 30 inch. I used the Leader max flow for drop lines. I like the extra flexibility compared to the stiff 30P drops. I did come up with a design to allow the main lines (5/16) tight.
    Regards,
    Chris
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    2014 upgraded to an antique leader 2 by 8 drop flue pan! Yikes, I need more sap.

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    I run the complete lateral line and then go back to put the drops in. After a few I check to make sure the line is still tight and make the necessary adjustments at the end (the t's will lengthen the line by about 1/4" or so).

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueberryHill View Post
    Watch out that FW Webb does not give you Rigid instead of Semi-Rigid. They had a bunch mis-labeled and I got 8 rolls of Rigid a couple days ago when in fact I ordered Semi. Now I gotta go back to swap them out. Moral of the story is don't send the wife to pick up maple stuff at a non-maple place and expect to actually get what you need.
    My guess is that if your wife saw this post, you won't have to worry about her picking up the wrong stuff again. BTW, what do people use rigid for? Just lats? I would think that semi-rigid is the way to go for everything. P.S. FW Webb has been great for me. They actually drive by my house twice a week and can drop anything that they have in stock. That's saying something when I live 2 hours from their closest warehouse.
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    1-'09: 4 gal stock pot, fire pit, 3 taps
    2-'10: Pots, Kitchen Stove & Sap Selling ~110 taps
    3-'11: 8x12 Shack, 146 taps (100 buckets/46 gravity), 16"x77" evaporator (2 flat pans)
    4-'12: 8x16 expanded shack, 147 taps, Leader 2x8 dropped flu
    5-'13: Added 10x20 wood shed, 1st yr on vac
    6-'14: 175 taps, Zero Tank
    7-'15: 230 taps, H20 jacket canner, Vintage Ski Doo Elan
    8-'16: 150 taps
    9-'17: Goal - RO and 250+
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    The math sounds good to me. However, my trees always end up further away than they seem or more than my initial estimate.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcgeec View Post
    Thanks all.

    Joust, let me think through this. I expect to do just 24 taps on tubing this year. I bought 100 because the bag had 100 in it. So if I have 25 2.5 foot long drop lines, that makes 62.5 feet of drop line. Leaving 437.5 for lateral line.

    Assuming mistakes I think I will be lucky to have two 200 foot lateral lines with 12 drops each.

    Thanks again.
    12th Year "skip gen" Maple Producer
    St. Lawrence County
    1-'09: 4 gal stock pot, fire pit, 3 taps
    2-'10: Pots, Kitchen Stove & Sap Selling ~110 taps
    3-'11: 8x12 Shack, 146 taps (100 buckets/46 gravity), 16"x77" evaporator (2 flat pans)
    4-'12: 8x16 expanded shack, 147 taps, Leader 2x8 dropped flu
    5-'13: Added 10x20 wood shed, 1st yr on vac
    6-'14: 175 taps, Zero Tank
    7-'15: 230 taps, H20 jacket canner, Vintage Ski Doo Elan
    8-'16: 150 taps
    9-'17: Goal - RO and 250+
    Twitter: @Newman_Zone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joust7.1 View Post
    The math sounds good to me. However, my trees always end up further away than they seem or more than my initial estimate.
    I swear, my trees move each year, a little further away.
    Urban Mapler

    2014 upgraded to an antique leader 2 by 8 drop flue pan! Yikes, I need more sap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueberryHill View Post
    Watch out that FW Webb does not give you Rigid instead of Semi-Rigid. They had a bunch mis-labeled and I got 8 rolls of Rigid a couple days ago when in fact I ordered Semi. Now I gotta go back to swap them out. Moral of the story is don't send the wife to pick up maple stuff at a non-maple place and expect to actually get what you need.
    Thanks! Just switched it myself. Made the same mistake.

    Now I have 25 30 inch drops ready to go!
    Urban Mapler

    2014 upgraded to an antique leader 2 by 8 drop flue pan! Yikes, I need more sap.

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    And my trees get closer every year. I then need to tighten the lateral. Often not a problem, because of repairs. I just remove enough when repairing to get back to a tight lateral. That's where a 2 hand tool is real handy.
    Dave Klish, I recently bought a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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