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  1. #601
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    Urban, great photos, mine in the Bristol Hills are still tight as of yesterday. Hope this cold will slow them down. New 3/16 tubing on hill side really working well. Didn't loose any lines in the wind storm. Lost a big sugar maple on the hill though. It gave its self up to fuel the fire for next year.

    Id like to stop up to your facility one day and pick up an idea or two. I make around 6-10 gallons a year

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    The spring peepers may have been out earlier but they are surely going to be wishing they would had stayed in the mud after tonite and tomorrow night , lows in the single digits. Hell I only 2-3 nights below zero all year, so this qualifies as cold this year.
    2008 700 ranger xp sap hauler/45 hp 4x4 tractor/028 super stihl
    2x4 mason hobby/blower/new for 2014 smoky lake hybrid pan
    2014 300ish buckets and still need bigger evaporator/14 x 20 square log shack
    2015 2x6 drop flue phaneuf approx. 325 buckets, 1 year older, not sure about the smarter part ?
    gets expensive in a hurry!!

  3. #603
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    Yeah, I had those peepers on Monday or Tuesday. Forget which day. They will be reasonably ok, as spring peepers are able to concentrate solutes into their blood stream to act like antifreeze and allow their body temperature to go below freezing without breaking any cell walls. That said, I'm not sure how well they do with fluctuating temps. As in, if they come out of hibernation are they able to re-concentrate solutes. That drastic swing might hurt them. I know the leopard frogs probably got hit, too.

  4. #604
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    If they were in the water, unless it froze all the way to the bottom they should be fine anyway, correct? .......
    2021 - 2x4 smokey lake HO raised flue, SSR. corsair arch 164 taps
    2020 -n/a
    2019 - 350 taps, new 18'x32' shack, SS sink & table 107 gal
    2018 - 295 taps new Leader MicRO single, new Leader 15 gal canner, made 55 gal
    2017 - 270 taps new Sunrise JDL Extreme w/preheater AUF & new Leader 5 plate Plastic Filter Press, made 53 gal
    2016 - 140 taps new Wes Fab short bank filter press, 17 gal.
    2015 - 85 taps new Sunrise 2x4 spitfire, made 23 gal.
    2012 - 2014 Turkey Fryer

  5. #605
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    They should be out tomorrow night with the warmer temps, but I hit -2 at 6:30 this morning.
    2008 700 ranger xp sap hauler/45 hp 4x4 tractor/028 super stihl
    2x4 mason hobby/blower/new for 2014 smoky lake hybrid pan
    2014 300ish buckets and still need bigger evaporator/14 x 20 square log shack
    2015 2x6 drop flue phaneuf approx. 325 buckets, 1 year older, not sure about the smarter part ?
    gets expensive in a hurry!!

  6. #606
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    Made use of the day to get ready for the next round. Started the morning by heading out with a hot bucket of water to clean all the frozen spoiled sap pucks out of the buckets. That was almost as much fun as it sounds. lol Then cleaned up the shack, made up a tool to clean the areas of the flues I can't get to with the flue brush, then finished cleaning the front pan that has been soaking in vinegar for a few days now. Left the evaporator with the stack of kindling already in it, ready to light.

    Bring it on!
    Noel Good
    1998 to 2009: 15 taps on buckets, scavenged fire pit and pans
    2010: New 2x4 SS flat pan w/preheater
    2015: New to me Lapierre 18x60 raised flue, new shack, new everything!! 59 taps 23.75 gallons
    2016: 85 taps 19 gallons
    2017: Purchased 2.5 acres and tubed half with 3/16. 145 taps total 49.25 gallons
    2018: 200 taps (162 on 3/16ths 38 on buckets) New NextGen RO 63 gallons
    2019: 210 taps 73.5 gallons
    2023: 210 taps 89.75 gallons
    www.wnybass.com

  7. #607
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    Never did see zero last night and this morning. Did see 1 and minus 1 though, lol... Permeate tank was a challenge today. The lightbulb hanging in front of the valve did do its job, still water not ice there. The rest of the tank did freeze pretty good though. Using a radiator next to it tonight n hopefully it'll thaw by tomorrow.
    Shoveled some ash out, put some puck lights where I've noticed just a bit more light is necessary in the shack, and got the wood ready. We'll see tomorrow.
    For those of you who are on either bags or buckets, whats YOUR indicator that sap may have spoiled hanging on the tree? I've just gone by visual and smell test and dumped or not dumped by that. May be some dumping tomorrow, but I'd rather do that than try to boil bad sap. Dunno yet, stayed frozen today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MapleMark753 View Post
    Never did see zero last night and this morning. Did see 1 and minus 1 though, lol... Permeate tank was a challenge today. The lightbulb hanging in front of the valve did do its job, still water not ice there. The rest of the tank did freeze pretty good though. Using a radiator next to it tonight n hopefully it'll thaw by tomorrow.
    Shoveled some ash out, put some puck lights where I've noticed just a bit more light is necessary in the shack, and got the wood ready. We'll see tomorrow.
    For those of you who are on either bags or buckets, whats YOUR indicator that sap may have spoiled hanging on the tree? I've just gone by visual and smell test and dumped or not dumped by that. May be some dumping tomorrow, but I'd rather do that than try to boil bad sap. Dunno yet, stayed frozen today.
    I go by color and smell. If it smells sour and/or looks cloudy and yellow I dump it. My buckets were frozen solid so I think they are okay. The tubing tank is frozen solid so hopefully that will thaw a bit tomorrow.

    I didn't get around to cleaning my pan with vinegar. Will need to do that this week for sure, but I have been reversing direction every boil and it helps out a lot. Other than that, everything is bottled, and all other equipment clean.
    Smoky Lake 2x6 fuel-oil fired, raised flue, hoods, SSR, concentric exhaust
    Home-built auto draw off
    Home-built RO - double XLE 4040, PLC controlled
    8x10 Sugar Shed
    200 taps on tubing with Shurflo vacuum with solar
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  9. #609
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    Quote Originally Posted by MapleMark753 View Post
    For those of you who are on either bags or buckets, whats YOUR indicator that sap may have spoiled hanging on the tree? I've just gone by visual and smell test and dumped or not dumped by that. May be some dumping tomorrow, but I'd rather do that than try to boil bad sap. Dunno yet, stayed frozen today.

    Before work on Wednesday I collected everything and came up with about 20 gals of marginal sap. Got home from work that afternoon and that 20 gals looked and smelled horrible, and a half dozen or so buckets I checked just before that wind moved through were extremely cloudy and nasty looking as well. As that front was moving through I was able to drain out all my tanks, but not the buckets. So, basically I knew what most my buckets looked like just before they froze solid.
    Noel Good
    1998 to 2009: 15 taps on buckets, scavenged fire pit and pans
    2010: New 2x4 SS flat pan w/preheater
    2015: New to me Lapierre 18x60 raised flue, new shack, new everything!! 59 taps 23.75 gallons
    2016: 85 taps 19 gallons
    2017: Purchased 2.5 acres and tubed half with 3/16. 145 taps total 49.25 gallons
    2018: 200 taps (162 on 3/16ths 38 on buckets) New NextGen RO 63 gallons
    2019: 210 taps 73.5 gallons
    2023: 210 taps 89.75 gallons
    www.wnybass.com

  10. #610
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    I think smell and taste are your best indicators. Sap that is cloudy or just a little yellow will make fine syrup so long as it tastes and smells alright. Syrup made from this sap may be a bit darker, but it'll taste good.

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