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    Quote Originally Posted by Userj8670 View Post
    I tapped on 2/3 - all drop lines and buckets. Collected about 55 gallons total. 7 of which to fill the evap. I am newer to the hobby and have seen talk of tapping to early?

    Roughly 50 taps
    Generally speaking, when you tap a tree it is analogous to you getting a cut on your body. Just like your body creates a scab to close off the wound and prevent future infection, the tree will seal-off the taphole. Once you drill that hole, the clock starts ticking. In a typical bucket or gravity tubing scenario you have about 6 weeks of usable taphole life. If you tap too early and then an extended cold spell hits, you run the risk of missing some good later season runs. This is why folks stress on tap timing. And to be honest, you don't know what the "correct date" is until after the season is done!

    One interesting read (there are others): http://www.uvm.edu/~pmrc/tapping.pdf

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    Thanks for the reply! Seems that i might have jumped a little early - what SAFE recourse do I have?

    Jim
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    Userj8670, At this point I'd just leave em and see how things turn out. You could always tap new trees (if you have more trees available) later in the season if you are seeing your original taps drop off in sap production. Some people will also ream the original holes when production drops off. I've personally never done this, but generally results aren't great and are short lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Userj8670 View Post
    Thanks for the reply! Seems that i might have jumped a little early - what SAFE recourse do I have?

    Jim
    I wouldn't worry about it, not much to do now. I think many of us are in the same boat, and we don't *know* if it was the correct decision until after the season.

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    I put in about 70 yesterday with minimal flow. I hope the trees loosened up overnight with warmer temps. This is a new bush with a shurflo setup. Very little slope so it's kind of an experiment. I will get the other 100 or so done soon and waiting on buckets this year until we get more consistent warm ups (if that's even a thing anymore).
    New for 2019 Smoky Lake 2x6 fuel-oil fired, raised flue, hoods, SSR
    Home-built auto draw off
    Home-built RO - single XLE 4040, PLC controlled
    20x20 garage converted to sugarhouse (in the city)
    200 taps, 160 on Shurflo and Lunchbox vac, 40 Buckets
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    Just before dark last night I closed the valve on the tank as it was a small steady stream. I went down to the tank after work today expecting anywhere from 40 to 200 gallons. It was right about at 180 gallons. A little over a gallon per tap in less than 24 hours. Glad I got the evaporator ready last night. The RO is NOT however!! I am going to fire up around 5:00 am tomorrow and run it for a bit before my dad gets here, and I have to go to work. Didn't check the percentage.
    Noel Good
    1998 to 2009: 15 taps on buckets, scavenged fire pit and pans
    2010: New 2x4 SS flat pan w/preheater
    2015: New to me Lapierre 18x60 raised flue, new shack, new everything!! 59 taps 23.75 gallons made
    2016: 85 taps 19 gallons
    2017: Purchased 2.5 acres and tubed half with 3/16. 145 taps total 49.25 gallons made
    2018: 200 taps (162 on 3/16ths 38 on buckets) New NextGen RO 63 gallons made
    2019: 210 taps 73.5 gallons made
    www.wnybass.com

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    Got about 75 gallons and my Shurflo was up to 13 inches, so about 1 GPT. Sap is at 2.3%. I'm still working out the system and had some hiccups but the new oil rig boils great. Flip on a switch and go. Just need to get my shurflo to 20+ inches like others here have done. To be fair, my bypass line is not running yet. I heard that helps.

    Gotta get the next 90 or so in and then the buckets. Should hit 200 taps this year with 160 of those on some vac.

    Maple season is here in western NY again.
    New for 2019 Smoky Lake 2x6 fuel-oil fired, raised flue, hoods, SSR
    Home-built auto draw off
    Home-built RO - single XLE 4040, PLC controlled
    20x20 garage converted to sugarhouse (in the city)
    200 taps, 160 on Shurflo and Lunchbox vac, 40 Buckets
    https://www.facebook.com/flowercitymaplesyrup/

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    Had enough to sweeten the pan and even draw off about a gallon. Gotta get the RO going, hard going back to the old way lol
    Noel Good
    1998 to 2009: 15 taps on buckets, scavenged fire pit and pans
    2010: New 2x4 SS flat pan w/preheater
    2015: New to me Lapierre 18x60 raised flue, new shack, new everything!! 59 taps 23.75 gallons made
    2016: 85 taps 19 gallons
    2017: Purchased 2.5 acres and tubed half with 3/16. 145 taps total 49.25 gallons made
    2018: 200 taps (162 on 3/16ths 38 on buckets) New NextGen RO 63 gallons made
    2019: 210 taps 73.5 gallons made
    www.wnybass.com

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    I'm working on getting the components to build one, can't wait to test it.
    2019- RO
    2018- 25 taps made 8 gal syrup.
    2017- 25 taps -built a 2x3 flat pan, and a fuel tank arch for it. 335 gal 7.34gal syrup.

    2016- 15 taps, 4.3gal syrup boiling on cinderblock arch 3 roasting pans, 1 redneck trash can with a pot, and a turkey fryer.

    2015- 4 taps 44 gals of sap made 2.25 gal of lite syrup.

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    Put everything in today. 108 taps total. Missed the early runs but didn't have time to boil anyway. Nothing running today at all, every hole was dry, which is good because my next chance to fire things up is next Saturday. Looks like we might get a run late in the week though.

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