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    Hi BreezyHill:

    I read your post and wondered if you had some advise. I have a sugar bush with the farthest tree around 2,000 feet away. The land is relatively flat. I have a design to use battery powered Guzzler pumps at two different locations. However, I'm wondering if the Guzzler pump would carry the sap back to the sugar house with a few sap ladders to raise it every 500-700 ft. Would this work even if I used a vacuum pump with a 25-45 CFM rating? I was hoping to use the Guzzler pumps for the first year or two to save money and then transfer those pumps to a remote location to handle a smaller sugar bush in the future.

    As a side thought, would a separate Guzzler pump at the sugar shack work if it were dedicated to only bringing the sap back to the sugar shack from 2,000 ft? If so, how would this work? Would I hook it directly to the outlet of the other pump or have it suck the sap from a tank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Jones Family Farm View Post
    Hi BreezyHill:

    I read your post and wondered if you had some advise. I have a sugar bush with the farthest tree around 2,000 feet away. The land is relatively flat. I have a design to use battery powered Guzzler pumps at two different locations. However, I'm wondering if the Guzzler pump would carry the sap back to the sugar house with a few sap ladders to raise it every 500-700 ft. Would this work even if I used a vacuum pump with a 25-45 CFM rating? I was hoping to use the Guzzler pumps for the first year or two to save money and then transfer those pumps to a remote location to handle a smaller sugar bush in the future.

    As a side thought, would a separate Guzzler pump at the sugar shack work if it were dedicated to only bringing the sap back to the sugar shack from 2,000 ft? If so, how would this work? Would I hook it directly to the outlet of the other pump or have it suck the sap from a tank?
    You would have better luck getting responses to your questions if you start your own separate thread than tacking on to the end of a 3 year old thread. You would be better off going with a vacuum pump and releaser than a Guzzler if you need to use ladders. Guzzlers perform well to a point but need liquid flowing through them to maintain good vacuum and you need good steady vacuum to make ladders work properly.
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    i got my guzzler to do about a 5 ft lift, i think anything over that it will not work. they dont have enough cfm to do the job.
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