Well it was worth thw wait,,I finnaly got a bacth (1 quart) To come out right ,,,my past troubles were all from not following the directions exactly,,,,,,,,the stuff is wonderful,,,,,,now I am looking for some bigger containers to use in the process,,would like to make a 1 gallon bacth,,,,I was thinking I have a 16 gallon leader finisher-canner and a 35 gallon waterloo canner-finisher,,,I think the leader pan would fit inside the waterloo pan for making big bacthes,(If I develope a market) ,,,,,,,,,just gonna have to pick up some molds