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    Quote Originally Posted by mol1jb View Post
    If I were to take a line off of my AOF/AUF blower to power a bubbler would to be necessary to put a filter on that line? Using a bouncy house blower for AOF. Blower is in the attic of kitchen.
    As long as the air you're pumping into your syrup is free of any fumes or dust etc, you should be fine. You probably won't know until you try it.
    I'm not sure what Russ at Red Roof Maples uses, he has certainly paved the way on this forum regarding bubblers, and I'm sure he makes great syrup.

    The H20 unit has 3 filters to clean the air. Outermost is a standard pleated filter much like on a small furnace; the inner two are charcoal.
    My thoughts are that if you're certain the air is clean and you're not adding any nasty stuff, you should be fine. On the other hand; H20 is selling a product with little control over the installation so they went the extra mile with filters and all stainless construction.

    As this is one piece of equipment that could really mess things up; for me going with a professionally made commercial unit was a no-brainer!
    It's not like making your own arch or an RO, we're talking about injecting air directly into your finished product.
    As a side benefit, I can Tee off the main air pipe and add AOF or AUF at a later date. The blower is that powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mol1jb View Post
    If I were to take a line off of my AOF/AUF blower to power a bubbler would to be necessary to put a filter on that line? Using a bouncy house blower for AOF. Blower is in the attic of kitchen.
    I'm not sure if a bouncy house blower will make enough pressure. I tried using a squirrel cage blower and it moved a lot of air but didn't make enough pressure to force the air through the bubbler tubes. I use a small shop vac that I bought just for the bubbler and it works good.
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    What do you think about making the manifold out of pvc and the take offs copper. That would help keep the cost down and make it easier to build for someone like me with no soldering experience
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    2022 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, homemade vac filter & water jacket canner - 104 gallons
    2021 - 215 on 3/16 shurflo, added 2nd membrane to RO - 78 gallons
    2020 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, upgraded hp pump on RO - 66 gallons
    2019 - 150 on 3/16 shurflo, Deer Run 125 dolly RO - 73 gallons
    2018 - 120 on 3/16 shurflo, 2x6 raised flue w/hood, homemade arch w/ AUF & AOF - 34.5 gallons

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    Quote Originally Posted by mol1jb View Post
    What do you think about making the manifold out of pvc and the take offs copper. That would help keep the cost down and make it easier to build for someone like me with no soldering experience
    The manifold would melt if you made it out of pvc. My pvc supply pipes which are outside of the pans are warped from the heat that rises off of the side of the arch and pans.

    Soldering isn't that hard to do. Just make sure everything is clean and dry before you start. Start with something easy, like an elbow or tee and by the time you get to the difficult stuff you'll be a pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Lampron View Post
    The manifold would melt if you made it out of pvc. My pvc supply pipes which are outside of the pans are warped from the heat that rises off of the side of the arch and pans.

    Soldering isn't that hard to do. Just make sure everything is clean and dry before you start. Start with something easy, like an elbow or tee and by the time you get to the difficult stuff you'll be a pro.
    Thanks for the info
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    2023 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, sap storage shack w/ 1100 gallon tank - 123 gallons
    2022 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, homemade vac filter & water jacket canner - 104 gallons
    2021 - 215 on 3/16 shurflo, added 2nd membrane to RO - 78 gallons
    2020 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, upgraded hp pump on RO - 66 gallons
    2019 - 150 on 3/16 shurflo, Deer Run 125 dolly RO - 73 gallons
    2018 - 120 on 3/16 shurflo, 2x6 raised flue w/hood, homemade arch w/ AUF & AOF - 34.5 gallons

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    Would 3/4 inch be large enough for the manifold? I would like to do 1/2 inch branches. Larger than 3/4 makes fittings expensive.
    Camp Wokanda
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    2023 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, sap storage shack w/ 1100 gallon tank - 123 gallons
    2022 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, homemade vac filter & water jacket canner - 104 gallons
    2021 - 215 on 3/16 shurflo, added 2nd membrane to RO - 78 gallons
    2020 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, upgraded hp pump on RO - 66 gallons
    2019 - 150 on 3/16 shurflo, Deer Run 125 dolly RO - 73 gallons
    2018 - 120 on 3/16 shurflo, 2x6 raised flue w/hood, homemade arch w/ AUF & AOF - 34.5 gallons

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    Quote Originally Posted by mol1jb View Post
    Would 3/4 inch be large enough for the manifold? I would like to do 1/2 inch branches. Larger than 3/4 makes fittings expensive.
    I made mine with 1" manifolds and 3/8" tubes. The 1" manifolds transition into a 1 1/2" PVC air supply pipe. I think 3/4" manifolds will work but think that 1/2" tubes, if that's what you're referring to as branches, will be too big.
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    Question - What distance between holes drilled in the arms?
    Camp Wokanda
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    2023 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, sap storage shack w/ 1100 gallon tank - 123 gallons
    2022 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, homemade vac filter & water jacket canner - 104 gallons
    2021 - 215 on 3/16 shurflo, added 2nd membrane to RO - 78 gallons
    2020 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, upgraded hp pump on RO - 66 gallons
    2019 - 150 on 3/16 shurflo, Deer Run 125 dolly RO - 73 gallons
    2018 - 120 on 3/16 shurflo, 2x6 raised flue w/hood, homemade arch w/ AUF & AOF - 34.5 gallons

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    Quote Originally Posted by mol1jb View Post
    Question - What distance between holes drilled in the arms?
    I drilled mine an inch apart.
    Russ

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    Russ,
    I just want to thank you for starting the bubbler thread and for answering all the questions over the years. Don't know how you had time to boil. I just built one and with the big help of a plumbing friend, I think it is going to work.
    I bought an 3/4 manifold with eight 1/2' outlets that fit my 2x4 SL evaporator for $15 on Ebay. Just testing with water, my boil rate was much higher. None of this would have happened without your original post and answers.
    Thank you,
    Doc

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