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    Default I found out what happens when you let a boiling pan run out of sap....

    and its NOT GOOD!!!

    I play mens indoor football, and I had a game last night at 8:00. I filled my pan with about 6-7 gallons of sap and asked my wife to check in on it and add more sap if it needed it until I got home while it boiled out in the drive way. I have no idea how it went through that much sap while I was gone less than 2 hours...but she calls me in a panic saying something is smoking really bad outside so I told her to go out and turn off the propane tank and Id be home in a few minutes. I got home to find the picture you see. Somehow it burnt through all of the sap and then melted the aluminum pan. The only thing I can think of is a hole must of formed in the pan and it dripped out all the sap and then the burner just did its thing to the empty aluminum pan. It literally had melted metal inside my propane burner. Luckily no real damage, no fires, and the propane burner even has no damage as the melted aluminum just came right off once it cooled. I will now no longer EVER leave a pan boiling while im not home. So im out my biggest pan and about 10 gallons of boiled down concentrate lol, that of course makes me more upset than losing the pan!IMG-20130325-00222.jpg
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    That's quite a story! Thank goodness your pot was the only casualty. You might need to consider changing your user name to SmellsLikeBurningNH. I hope you can find yourself a new pot quickly and get back in the game. There is too much sap flowing these days to have your production line hampered.
    ~ Karen ~

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    Thanks Karen!!!

    I have 4 pots....just for some reason i dont understand why this one went dry on me? The others all had about a gallon or 2 of liquid in them still when this happened. I can only guess that is sprung a leak and drained out then the rest is what you see. Ive got 60 gallons of sap to boil right now, so I will be back at it tonight and NOT leaving the house.
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    Wow! I had no idea that a pan could melt like that, especially that fast. I have been doing the same thing after work trying to concentrate my sap down some before I put it on the evaporator, going to be paying much more attention after seeing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucksaw View Post
    Wow! I had no idea that a pan could melt like that, especially that fast. I have been doing the same thing after work trying to concentrate my sap down some before I put it on the evaporator, going to be paying much more attention after seeing this.
    Me either!!! If you could see the bottom of my propane burner, the metal looked like melted solder or melted candle wax, it literally melted the metal so that it pooled and dripped.
    2022 4x40" RO, Welch 1397 Vac Pump, 3 Guzzler Pumps, Lapierre Releaser, 1100 taps
    2021 Twin Baby Boys, Close to 650 taps
    2020 Upgraded RO to 2 post and 7GBS Pump. 265 taps
    2019 Smoky Lake 2x6 raised flue, Autodraw system, Maple Jet Filter Press, a beautiful new bride to be my sugaring partner :-)
    2017 Expanded Sugar Shack, new 2x6 with float box, NEXTgen Maple RO, 250+ taps, still on sap sacks
    2016 Sugar Shack, 2x6 evaporator, 160 taps, all on Sap Sacks
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    Yeah it would certainly seem that it leaked to be that dry that fast. I bet your wife feels really badly about what happened. She was probably pretty scared when she saw the meltdown in progress with propane gas tanks all around.
    ~ Karen ~

    2012 - 10 taps, 1 turkey fryer - 169.5L sap 4.2 L syrup
    2013 - 23 taps, 2 turkey fryers - 748.5 L sap 17.56 L syrup

    2014 - 22 taps, 509 L sap 12.5 L syrup
    2015 - 28 taps, 1093.75 L sap 25.1 L syrup
    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
    2018 - 28 taps, 2 turkey fryers & Denali 3 burner propane stove - 798L sap 16.9 L syrup
    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

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    She was worried and im just glad none of the melting metal hit a propane hose or anything like that to cause a real fire or explosion. So I wanted to just put this out there, because I certianly never knew this could happen.
    2022 4x40" RO, Welch 1397 Vac Pump, 3 Guzzler Pumps, Lapierre Releaser, 1100 taps
    2021 Twin Baby Boys, Close to 650 taps
    2020 Upgraded RO to 2 post and 7GBS Pump. 265 taps
    2019 Smoky Lake 2x6 raised flue, Autodraw system, Maple Jet Filter Press, a beautiful new bride to be my sugaring partner :-)
    2017 Expanded Sugar Shack, new 2x6 with float box, NEXTgen Maple RO, 250+ taps, still on sap sacks
    2016 Sugar Shack, 2x6 evaporator, 160 taps, all on Sap Sacks
    2014 110 taps
    2013 35 taps

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    And for that, we have all learned something very important this morning.
    ~ Karen ~

    2012 - 10 taps, 1 turkey fryer - 169.5L sap 4.2 L syrup
    2013 - 23 taps, 2 turkey fryers - 748.5 L sap 17.56 L syrup

    2014 - 22 taps, 509 L sap 12.5 L syrup
    2015 - 28 taps, 1093.75 L sap 25.1 L syrup
    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
    2018 - 28 taps, 2 turkey fryers & Denali 3 burner propane stove - 798L sap 16.9 L syrup
    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Run Forest Run! View Post
    And for that, we have all learned something very important this morning.
    you sure you havent been talking to my wife? :-)
    2022 4x40" RO, Welch 1397 Vac Pump, 3 Guzzler Pumps, Lapierre Releaser, 1100 taps
    2021 Twin Baby Boys, Close to 650 taps
    2020 Upgraded RO to 2 post and 7GBS Pump. 265 taps
    2019 Smoky Lake 2x6 raised flue, Autodraw system, Maple Jet Filter Press, a beautiful new bride to be my sugaring partner :-)
    2017 Expanded Sugar Shack, new 2x6 with float box, NEXTgen Maple RO, 250+ taps, still on sap sacks
    2016 Sugar Shack, 2x6 evaporator, 160 taps, all on Sap Sacks
    2014 110 taps
    2013 35 taps

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    Yikes! You sure were lucky that you didn't have a bigger emergency on your hands! Your pic gives a whole new meaning to 'burnt pan'! Glad this ended on a safe note, but sorry for your loss of sap!
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