Interesting debate. We boil on outdated equipment, some sap goes through an RO, all of it comes from tubing. Now, given the choice to eat syrup made from our operation, or a non RO, bucket operation with welded stainless equipment and no diatomaceous earth.......... I don't know. Sap that is going through miles of plastic, pumps, membranes that can't be better than a traditional bucket operation on updated stainless equipment.