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    Uh that is a negetative and I hope that this thread gets deleted! yikes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer11 View Post
    there is this new food grade anti-freeze that they came out with, this might be what he means by non toxic, if that is the cast i assume they would be okay to use
    Make sure you tell your customers that you are the only one using antifreeze buckets in your operation. OR JUST DON'T DO IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thad Blaisdell View Post
    Would you use it to store baby formula? .
    This should be a sticky on the top of this forum. Probably the best rhetorical question one should ask themselves for any sap/syrup storage.

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    food grade anti freeze? what chemicals do they use to make it not freeze? hmm sounds delicious, maybe we should try that on our pancakes..... NOT do not use the buckets. just because it says non-toxic doesn't mean I would start eating Crayola markers.
    Chris

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    non toxic pretty much just means it is OK for your septic to keep a toilet from freezing ...........
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    If you are looking for something that isnt gonna cost you any money for sap collection on buckets, start saving gallon plastic milk jugs..get your nehghbors to save them for you too. before you know it you will have plenty of them. Or for alittle bit bigger capacity, you can goto local grocerie stores or Cosco I think you have in VT and goto the bakery department and ask them if they have any frosting/bakery buckets they would give you. These buckets come filled with frosting and when they are empty they usually just get tossed out.

    I just re-read your post and it looks like you are looking for a gathering pail to dump your current buckets into (please tell me they are sap buckets or sap sacks).. Just goto any big box store or hardware store an look for polyethlene 5 gallon pails. will cost you under $5 for the pail and the lid.
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    FIRST GENERATION SUGARMAKER
    First boil 2/22/2012! Went Pefect!
    3,500' of laterals
    1,000' of mainline
    2012 - 105 taps on gravity, 12 sap sacks.
    2013 - 175 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks = 200 taps for 2013! Second year.
    2014 - 250 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks
    Tapped on February 16, 2014
    2015 - adding vac sap puller no more gravity for me!
    275 gallon holding tank for 2014
    20'x30' Sugarhouse

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    Everybody happy???

    Anybody else?

    Peter
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    We are not trying to bash you or your ideas. We are just trying to make a very strong point. This is a subject that comes up way too often. The largest offense was some guy wanted to know if he could use a tank that had stored Round-up. Believe it or not some agreed that it could be cleaned. Sorry not for me or my children. Clean and New is the way to go.
    Thad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stamford sugarmaker View Post
    Everybody happy???

    Anybody else?

    Peter
    Yeah, dont take offense but I hope that you heed our advice
    FIRST GENERATION SUGARMAKER
    First boil 2/22/2012! Went Pefect!
    3,500' of laterals
    1,000' of mainline
    2012 - 105 taps on gravity, 12 sap sacks.
    2013 - 175 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks = 200 taps for 2013! Second year.
    2014 - 250 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks
    Tapped on February 16, 2014
    2015 - adding vac sap puller no more gravity for me!
    275 gallon holding tank for 2014
    20'x30' Sugarhouse

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    i think you got the message with all these responses but i'll give you my 2cents NNNNNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!. use them to store tools and things . around here you can find them w/lids at the fudge shops ,candy makers, bakeries ect. for 2-2.50 each . food grade . good luck in your season
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