Guys - You guys asked me about the fall tapping becouse you heard I was doing it so I dont mind letting you know how I made out. I didnt want to make a big production out of it becouse its out of the ordinary and sometimes that invites all kinds of opinions and I just like to make syrup and dont need getting caught up on all that. Its been pretty interesting if nothing else. I tapped last week of October. Turned the pump on and that sap started running. Real weak like .6%. After that if it froze it would be 1.4% if it didnt freeze it would be one percent. Last couple weeks it seems to be alway 1.4%. Id say that you get less than half of spring runs in volume. Nothing is as intense so to speak. Half to draw your own conclusions if its worth it. When you see these temps your thinking in terms of sring sap run volumes and it just doesnt seem to be like that. Very short dark days. If it freezes at night you have to get several days of not froze to add up to a real good volume becouse it will thaw out at noon and quit at 4 to any big extent. No freezes for several days and your doing it on pure vac it slows down at night even if its warm and speeds up during day. Just how it works. Ive done it roughly six weeks and will make 500 gallons I think on 3300 taps. No idea if the holes go whole way. Id say if they do its well worth it. If you dont care about redrilling trees its worth it. If the holes quit early might not be worth it. Your ready for season way ahead of time. For me Im not sure I do it again or not. Ill kind of have to wait to see how the spring goes. The syrup is very good quality near as I could tell. I dont think it would ever be like an extra six weeks of regular season. I think no matter what it will always be a lesser returning thing than the spring runs. I know one thing to do it to any extent its got to be on high vac and you better own ro equipment unless you want to make a gallon over a campfire or something. Theron