untapped wilderness in the adirondacks

[delivron]

You may wish to contact Betty Little (NY Senator for Northeastern NY) she is very pro Adirondack business development. Her district compromises Warren, Washington, Clinton, Essex counties. To name a few.
http://www.nysenate.gov/senator/elizabeth-little

[adk1]

the problem is that truthfully, the ADK Park is controlled by NYC and not the folks who try to scrape out a living. ITs a park for the entire population of the State of NY. Beleive me, the state could really put a huge dent in their defecit if they were to allow selective harvesting. You should see the Cherry that I bet is vaneer all over hte place. huge.

[3rdgen.maple]

the problem is that truthfully, the ADK Park is controlled by NYC and not the folks who try to scrape out a living. ITs a park for the entire population of the State of NY. Beleive me, the state could really put a huge dent in their defecit if they were to allow selective harvesting. You should see the Cherry that I bet is vaneer all over hte place. huge.

My bowhunting camp in southern ier is surrounded on 3 sides by state land and they selective cut it a couple times over the years. It is a sad waste to see that all they do is drop big big mature trees and let them rot. The potential income on just state land alone is huge and its not deemed forever wild. I was told by the guys cutting that they have to leave it because the state deemed it a vaulable ground cover for wildlife and the insects blah blah blah Im all for wildlife aid but come on theres millions of dollars of loss lumber and firewood rotting away. Heck they could leave the firewood logs and just take the lumber logs. Not to mention what a friggin mess it leaves.

[220 maple]

There are a couple producers on this site who get to tap some National Forest land. I have a friend I work with who approached the Forest Ranger Headquarters for the Geo. Washington National Forest and was told by them that it was not possible to use the National Forest for Maple Syrup Production. I believe he could have forced the issue, however I suspect they would have countered with it should not be allowed in any National Forest which could have caused problems for the one that have the privledge now. Maybe with a push in other states it may open up are Forests. There is a lot of Sugars in the National Forests of Virginia and West Virginia.

Mark 220 Maple

[maple flats]

This is almost along the same vein as drilling for oil. Our country would rather send all of our money to the mid east than allow much oil drilling. In the gulf they stopped our companies from drilling and then signed a deal for a south american company to drill in the gulf (Venezuela?)

[Ausable]

This is almost along the same vein as drilling for oil. Our country would rather send all of our money to the mid east than allow much oil drilling. In the gulf they stopped our companies from drilling and then signed a deal for a south american company to drill in the gulf (Venezuela?)

All the nonsense in America goes on and on. We are on a sinking ship and doing nothing to plug leaks. We will not build New coal fired electric generating plants as we move closer to Nationwide Blackouts. Yet China - a somewhat backward nation 25 years ago - we helped turn into an industrial giant - Builds one coal fired generating plant a week and we sell them coal. Hmmmmmmm! What kind of sick game is being played and who benefits if America goes under?

[farmer12071]

ive said for yrs. ny is not broke they just make it a broken state,if they opened state land up to sugaring and nut and fruit harvesting and took the real useless land and sold 10yr.camping contracts they could pay the debt.the camp my friend has in the adk park is on a mill tract,and 40 some yrs ago his grandparents took a 100yr lease on the property they pay like 300 a month to the mill preservation society and i said if private sector can make something like that work why couldnt it be done on a state level,they said the money raised would only be used to bring about another beurocrat program to patrol the parcels used.just have to love the great state of new york city

[twobears1224]

i don,t get excited about tapping state land at all.if they did allow it there would be so many regs that it wouldn,t be worth it anyhow.plus,it would be a bid type system and some guy would bid so much it wouldn,t be worth it anyhow.
i keep hearing how the state is getting involved in maple..i wish they wouldn,t..it,ll be just one more thing they screwup...it,s all push,push tap,tap,tap..make more syrup..well,wheres the other end..markets,markets,markets and more markets for all that syrup..i hear nothing about getting more markets for all that syrup.
i,am a logger and i love the woods..it makes me sick to see trashed woods like on stateland...if they want more tax money they could let me take one week,my tractor and chainsaw and i,de give them a weeks worth of timber profit as my yearly taXES..i,de be cleaning up there mess,making the wood better and giving more to them then my noral yearly taxes.

delbert

[adk1]

i don,t get excited about tapping state land at all.if they did allow it there would be so many regs that it wouldn,t be worth it anyhow.plus,it would be a bid type system and some guy would bid so much it wouldn,t be worth it anyhow.
i keep hearing how the state is getting involved in maple..i wish they wouldn,t..it,ll be just one more thing they screwup...it,s all push,push tap,tap,tap..make more syrup..well,wheres the other end..markets,markets,markets and more markets for all that syrup..i hear nothing about getting more markets for all that syrup.
i,am a logger and i love the woods..it makes me sick to see trashed woods like on stateland...if they want more tax money they could let me take one week,my tractor and chainsaw and i,de give them a weeks worth of timber profit as my yearly taXES..i,de be cleaning up there mess,making the wood better and giving more to them then my noral yearly taxes.

delbert

the market is overseas now. Someone on this board talked about China or Japan. We need to export more products and import less!