untapped wilderness in the adirondacks

[adk1]

hope so, but there is no way how that the Legeslation will ever change for those types of areas. That would take an amendment to the Constitution! Which is primarily driven by the downstaters (South of Interstate 90).

[twobears1224]

in my opinion it,s a shame how new york state takes care of there woods period..weather,it,s not tapping there maples,thinning the woods or cleaning up blowdown,ect,ect,ect..if i owned the land that they do and it looked like it does i,de be ashamed of myself.
we keep hearing how hard up new york state is...well,first off stop wasting money..then MANAGE!! the forest and start making money off it.
i can take u for a walk in the forest that ny owns and in one day show u enough blowdown timber that has NEVER!! been picked up to settle the debt in ny state...and it,s all in areas that has been logged in the past..before ny state got it...so,why try saying it,s wilderness and not manage it for timber??

delbert

[oneoldsap]

OMG , there are millions of Gallons of Syrup not being made in the Adirondack Park alone ! The Buzz words are Forever Wild . The Tree Huggers think they are helping to Conserve wildlife . They don't have a clue that animals can't live in a Mature forest , as there is nothing for them to eat there . The Park is 3 million Acres more or less of mature Forest . aside from some private land mixed in here and there , the forest is pretty much left alone to grow and die . What a waste of a resource ! There used to be some huge Sugaring operations in the Adirondacks , one even had it's own Railroad !

[maple flats]

There has been talk from Senator Schumer (Fed) and others (in the state gov't) to push for opening the Park to tapping. Hopefully I live long enough to see it. Today's financial crisis in the state might help move the initiative faster. I don't like many things Schumer does but this one is GOOD. His 2nd ammendment ideas are a disaster for any gun owners (the legal ones that is). His view only helps the criminals.

[delivron]

You may wish to contact Betty Little (NY Senator for Northeastern NY) she is very pro Adirondack business development. Her district compromises Warren, Washington, Clinton, Essex counties. To name a few.
http://www.nysenate.gov/senator/elizabeth-little

[adk1]

the problem is that truthfully, the ADK Park is controlled by NYC and not the folks who try to scrape out a living. ITs a park for the entire population of the State of NY. Beleive me, the state could really put a huge dent in their defecit if they were to allow selective harvesting. You should see the Cherry that I bet is vaneer all over hte place. huge.

[3rdgen.maple]

the problem is that truthfully, the ADK Park is controlled by NYC and not the folks who try to scrape out a living. ITs a park for the entire population of the State of NY. Beleive me, the state could really put a huge dent in their defecit if they were to allow selective harvesting. You should see the Cherry that I bet is vaneer all over hte place. huge.

My bowhunting camp in southern ier is surrounded on 3 sides by state land and they selective cut it a couple times over the years. It is a sad waste to see that all they do is drop big big mature trees and let them rot. The potential income on just state land alone is huge and its not deemed forever wild. I was told by the guys cutting that they have to leave it because the state deemed it a vaulable ground cover for wildlife and the insects blah blah blah Im all for wildlife aid but come on theres millions of dollars of loss lumber and firewood rotting away. Heck they could leave the firewood logs and just take the lumber logs. Not to mention what a friggin mess it leaves.

[3rdgen.maple]

There has been talk from Senator Schumer (Fed) and others (in the state gov't) to push for opening the Park to tapping. Hopefully I live long enough to see it. Today's financial crisis in the state might help move the initiative faster. I don't like many things Schumer does but this one is GOOD. His 2nd ammendment ideas are a disaster for any gun owners (the legal ones that is). His view only helps the criminals.

Yeah dont count on anything Schumer does is good. He is out to line his pockets and is the big pusher behind the catskills tapping project. If this ever happens it will not go undone without red tape and a taxable income from doing it. I have contacted the state DEC many times in the past about tapping trees on state land and the guy on the phone specifically told me it would be easier for me to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. I asked him to put that in writting he said no lol.

[Ausable]

Back to Forest Management -- In Michigan (In my little world)
We kind of live in the center of the Huron National Forest. Any direction we drive we have to go through at least twenty miles of National Forest and for the most part I think the U.S. Forest Service does a pretty good job. That said - I am not aware of any trees tapped in Huron National Forest for Maple Syrup Production.... Most of the Forest management is a mixed bag for many different uses. One thing that bugs me is the Kirtland Warbler management areas -- To many of them for this Birds nesting areas. They will clear cut - say 100 acres of mixed forest and then plant Jack Pines for this birds nesting habitat and then when the trees are at the right age - restrict human entrance for several months during the time this migrant bird is in our state. There are always areas being cut and replanted with Jack Pines for this purpose - which is not a real timber tree and makes for some very nasty forest fires. But - other then that example - They work with the timber industry and do a fairly good job of forest management. Just my opinion. Now State Forests are another story and I know very little about them.

[KenWP]

Would love to have some jack pine here.I need some fence posts badly. Out west we had millions of acres of jack pine used to laugh when they had the chain gangs cleaning up under them in the foresty reserve.
We also had areas restricted for use due to little tiny owls.