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Good afternoon All-
Anyone have any ideas on how a significant drought like we have been experiencing globally but more specifically in the North East impacts the sap production. Does less ground water force the trees to work differently in producing sap? I would like to hear your thoughts.
Thank you
Sap flow is more dependent on soil moisture during the spring itself...so snowmelt and rain during the spring are quite important. However, there seems to be a couple of impacts on sap sugar content and tree growth. Think of leaves as the engine of the tree. The fuel is sunlight. But in order for that engine to run at peak levels, everything else needs to be operating correctly. If soil moisture is lacking, stomates in the leaves close, so CO2 cannot enter the leaves and be "fixed" into sugars. So drought reduces photosynthetic carbon gain (production of sugars), resulting in reduced growth and less storage or sugars in that ring of wood formed during that time. Fortunately, the sugar we collect as maple producers in sap comes from many tree rings (20-30 depending on tree growth rate and taphole depth), but the outermost tree rings tend to be the most productive (more sugar and higher hydraulic conductivity...meaning the younger pipes/vessels work better), so there can be some small reduction in sap sugar content due to drought. This is more apparent when we have several years of drought in a row.
I apologize if this seems too complicated...but that is really the simple explanation. The details would make heads spin. :rolleyes:
So it sounds like we might get lower sugar content. Will this affect the amount of sap as well? Or should we get roughly the same amount of sap, but less sugar? I know there are many many other factors to consider, but all other things being equal.
Thanks - Becky
The amount of sap depends on soil moisture in the spring, like Dr Tim said, snowmelt and rain leading into and during the maple season
Is there a point at which, one should look at the summer drought conditions and decide, for the long term sake of your sugarbush, skip a year? It sounds like some folks have already made that call for this coming season. (or maybe it was just one folk. Someone mentioned it)
Personally, I'm not going to skip a year based on this year's drought. I've had years where the sugar content is lower, but the volume of sap due to good conditions in the spring is very high. I've also had years where the sugar content of the sap is higher, but the conditions in the spring have led to a short season with low volume. I'd much rather have the former.
I've only been at this since '06, but in that relatively shorter time I've had a few serious droughts and two years of really bad gypsy moths. Each time I expected a direct impact on sugar and it didn't seem to materialize - at least in an obvious way. The other thing I've found is sugar production is really micro-regional. My area (eastern Mass) is in the the worst drought in years, but my trees appear to be far less stressed than previous droughts. I've had Augusts and early Septembers where the leaves are spotty and dropping in big numbers. This year there's been some leaf drop but not as bad as previous years. Maybe there was enough rain in the early part of the summer to get the trees through. I have no idea.
All that said, I will skip individual trees if I notice it's not doing well, especially if it's young. I had a big dead oak taken down this summer (gypsy moths) and they had to limb some 10" sugars pretty heavily to get to it. I'm going to give those trees a year off.
After a couple of relatively dry springs, we had a normal one with some rain this year. Definitely noticed it helped to keep the late season runs going. Longest season in a few years this past year. Don’t worry about the summer drought.
Sap yield has more to do with the conditions happening during the spring flow season, particularly soil moisture and temperatures.Quote:
Originally Posted by therealtreehugger
Sugar content is related to a whole bunch of things...drought being one of them. It is difficult to accurately predict given the large number of variables involved and their interactions, but we have done some work on this.
In general, again, if you think of the leaves of the trees as an engine, that engine will run at its peak efficiency if all things are going well. If something impacts the performance, sugar production will decrease. Not a lot you can do to INCREASE production (other than thinning, perhaps fertilization) to make the engine better, so most stresses act to reduce engine (photosynthetic) performance to varying degrees. Many are interrelated...so when it is hot, it is often dry. But then you're also factoring not only one growing season, but a large number of them, but with decreasing levels of effect on sap sugar content as those tree rings get deeper into the tree.
Generally no. Tapping is such a minor stress in most cases. If there were 2-3 years of significant drought, and there were areas that we particularly prone to drought (shallow soils, stony soils, ridgetop sites, ledgy sites, sandy soils, etc.) and it was possible to not tap those trees for a few years...then by all means...go for it. Most people don't have that option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy VT
Typically decline disease happens due to the combination of 2 or more factors, so something like drought will impact the trees, then some insect or other stress will finish them off. This process generally takes several years. The trees may recover...or not.
Tapping only removes on the order of 3-4% (max) of the sugar reserves from a tree each spring. The exception to this rule is SMALL trees. In the understory they're living on starvation wages (low light), and barely growing. Any removal of sugar is detrimental.
it was a great explanation! Now I am curious to when the trees are most susceptible to drought conditions :) We had a very dry June and July, but then it rained almost every day in August. The leaves have been turning color here but they seem to be a week or two behind in color what they normally are at this time which is interesting... Also, usually the red maples are the first to start turning then sugars. This year they are about the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins
Interesting stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins
Do Medullary Rays ever shut down at a certain depth/growth ring and eventually abandon sugar deep within the cellulose of a trunk? I.E. if we have drought in the spring and poor sap flow over consecutive years.
Its seems the answer would be yes or most woods would not have that sweet smell when I cut them as lumber. Even the Pith section almost as well.
And so my ultimate question here would be does drought in any given season increase the rate or amount of abandonment over time?
Or is the abandonment only nominal after several drought seasons in a row?
Heartwood formation is not programmed that specifically (to certain rings or ages) in maple trees. It is quite variable as you'll have noticed when cutting trees up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugar Bear
Hydraulic function (ability to move liquid) and carbohydrate levels (starch and sugar) drop off from the outermost to innermost rings. There is certainly almost always some residual non-structural carbohydrate remaining in wood that gets walled off, and is therefore no longer accessible to the tree. Of course, stained wood produced by tapping is also no longer functional for liquid movement or carbohydrate storage. It is essentially structural at that point, but little else.
Good questions. No good answers. I doubt that (in sugar maple at least) there is a real strong relationship for any one particular season of dry weather. Drought will clearly reduce basal growth and carbohydrate production/storage. Perhaps there would be a stronger relationship in ring-porous trees like oak where functionality drops off very quickly with depth, but I can't say for sure, partly because maple is a bit of an oddball species and partly because we think mostly in terms of what is going on with sap flow during an odd part of the year for most plants. Most tree physiology deals with sap flow during the growing season. We deal with sap flow during the so-called "dormant" season.Quote:
And so my ultimate question here would be does drought in any given season increase the rate or amount of abandonment over time?
Or is the abandonment only nominal after several drought seasons in a row?
Yes, what you say makes sense, and we should all be able to deduce this because it seems it would be senseless for a tree to evolve itself to rely so heavily on one summer worth of food production.
To me it seems like a tree that did that would be a serious evolutionary failure.
But I suppose some trees may make a go of it that way.
Here in southwestern Nebraska we have been in a severe drought for years. We went 2 months in the middle of summer with 1/4" of rain. I can tap trees on the creek bottom and get good sap, go up hill 50 feet to a beautiful tree and not get a drop. Drought does effect sap flow very much.
Jim
No argument there. Drought in either the spring or summer affects sap flow, but in different ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Foster