New sugar house

[western mainer]

I have been working on a new sugar house sawing out and framing I haven't tapped in 30 years after the old house burnt down.The new one is 20x24'.
Went to Vermont to the mapleramma this year and had a great time.
Brian

[Haynes Forest Products]

So you got 30 years for burning it down?:o :lol: Welcome back to flooding the market we are all doing what we can.

[Ausable]

I have been working on a new sugar house sawing out and framing I haven't tapped in 30 years after the old house burnt down.The new one is 20x24'.
Went to Vermont to the mapleramma this year and had a great time.
Brian

Brian -- Welcome back -- Good luck on the new sugar shack. I must admit - if my little sugar shack burned down - I would be bummed out. But dang! 30 years - that is a record bummed out..... Hey - 20' x 24' is a nice size sugar house - how big a set up you planning on? -- Mike

[western mainer]

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We are going for the spring of 2012, with 400 to start and growing to over 1,000 at this point. The beams are 6x12x20' long hemlock
Brian

[Ausable]

Hi again Brian - Wow - I'm really impressed. Thanks for the pictures - that is really going to be a solid building. Ha - my idea of heavy framing is 2 x 6's and 4 x 4's....... make lots of maple --- Mike

[Randy Brutkoski]

Me and my father in law started framing the the walls yesterday on the new sugarhouse and it is going good.Puting alot of straping in between the studs for the shiplap, which is time consuming. Hopefully i will have some pictures of the progress towards the end of the week. My 2x6's look like twigs compared to the monster lumber that you have.

[3rdgen.maple]

I personally like the custom built crane. One thing can be said about sugarmakers , They are an inovated bunch.

[western mainer]

Well I got some rafters up after awhile, when you are working by yourself its a lot of work.The rafters are 6x8x14 feet.
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[Dennis H.]

I have to agree with 3rdgen that is one cool crane that you got there.

What can I do with a 20' log, a tractor with a bucket, a few chains and straps? A crane of course!:lol:

Oh by the way nice look sugarhouse, I love timber framed stuff.

[Pete S]

Mr. Western Mainer,..........you are quite an inspiration for me! What a great idea with the pine tree jib!

Nice build by the way too!

[morningstarfarm]

DUDE!! I love it.... but methinks you have watched one too many Red Green shows!

[3rdgen.maple]

You know after coming back to this post it reminded me of the days when I was a production manager at a printshop. Owners built a new shop and put in an upper storage level. What he failed to reconize was that we could not fit a forklift in the building with a high enough lift on it to reach the upper level to put skids of paper up there. About a month goes by and I came back from lunch and these knucklehead employees thought it was a good idea to put a skid on one forklift then lift that forklift into the air with the bigger one and raise it in the air. Then the Donkey on the forklift that was raised in the air raise that boom up till it reached. I just walked in at the point they were driving the bottom forklift forward. It was not the safest thing I ever seen. After that deal I sent them all to a OSHA certified forklift training course. Those 2 guys thought I was being overdramatic with all the gestures I threw there way. Atleast they strapped the top forklift to the forks on the bottom one lol.

[Ausable]

Now that is funny. Did they Duct Tape the Stoner in the top fork lift to his seat too? When they say - Life is stranger than fiction - It sure applies here. Hard to get good help like that in these times. ..... Thanks for the story - made my day.........

[3rdgen.maple]

LOl they probably would have but the one on top was one of those stand up lifts. I wish I took a picture of it.

[western mainer]

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Here's two more photos'. Is hot here today 90, slow me down. It's starting to come together now, less sawing on the sawmill and more nails flying.
Brian

[Pete S]

Western Mainer,...................I really like your shack! Nice work, you are gonna have a real keeper!

[Ausable]

---I agree - a very nice job --- Mike

[TapME]

I need to take a ride up and see this wonderful work of art Western Mainer. It brings back days of craftman ship in buildings. Keep the pics coming.

[western mainer]

TapME I'm just up the road from you in Greenwood. Drop me a line and we'll meet up.
Brian

[Revi]

That is going to be one sturdy sugarhouse! Noice!

[3rdgen.maple]

Westernmainer please stop posting pictures of your sugarhouse. You are making all of ours look like outhouses lol. Well atleast mine anyways. Seriously though it looks real good and I dont think you have to worry about it falling down anytime soon.

[western mainer]

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Well had a good day here, cooling off now in the low 70's. I'll be working the next two days!'
Brian

[C.Wilcox]

western mainer-

How did you attached the purlins to your rafters?

[western mainer]

The purlins are cut in to the rafters, with help of a router and a jig I made up.
Brian

[Pete S]

Your "rough framing" joints look better'n my finish trim joints,.................knock it off would ya! :-)

[C.Wilcox]

The purlins are cut in to the rafters, with help of a router and a jig I made up.
Brian

So, what you did was rout out a recess in the rafter to create a shoulder for the purlin? How deep did you cut that recess and are your rafters green timber? From the look of your construction I would assume you have quite a bit of experience so I'm guessing you accounted for shrinkage in the width of your rafters?

The building is really looking great. What kind of sawmill are you using to cut your timber?

[western mainer]

I set the pockets in 2 1/4 inches. I have a Norwood 15 HP mill. as for the shrinkage, that's part of the looks.
Brian

[C.Wilcox]

Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, I wasn't suggesting the timber shrinkage would make the roof look bad. I was just wondering how much you recessed the purlins to make sure they wouldn't fall out when the rafter shrank down. 2 1/4 inches is a pretty deep pocket though so that's obviously not going to happen.

[Pete S]

They may shrink a bit, but fit fine reeeaaallll nice in March!

[western mainer]

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Things are moving along now that the roofs all done.
Brian

[Ausable]

Beautiful work Brian - especially the framing. Something you seldom see anymore - except in old barns. You do very good work. --- Mike

[Maple Ridge]

Like the beam work. I am in the process of building a new sugar house, and was wondering if anyone knows how far from the roof rafters the smoke stack needs to be. I purchased a new 20 x 66 maple pro evaperator and looks like I can be installing it in two weeks. This has been more work than I anticipated.

[C.Wilcox]

EDIT- Removed off topic discussion.

[Maple Ridge]

It is standard pipe that came with the unit. I was planning on using backerboard that is used in the evaperator prior to installing the fire brick to line the opening. Rafters are 24" on center.

[WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER]

Like the beam work. I am in the process of building a new sugar house, and was wondering if anyone knows how far from the roof rafters the smoke stack needs to be. I purchased a new 20 x 66 maple pro evaperator and looks like I can be installing it in two weeks. This has been more work than I anticipated.

I have trusses in my building and they are on 24" center. I have a 10" stainless stack and I have the inside of the trusses that are adjacent to the stack covered with 1" ceramic blanket about 2' out past each side of the stack. Might sound like overkill, but I don't have to worry about it and the purlins on the roof are covered too. Sometimes my stack temps have went above 1700 degrees, so I like the peace of mind.

[western mainer]

Wow It's been a long time. Well some of the tubing is up,the rest will wait as we got a foot of snow today here is a picture of the small evaporator in the sugar house. The house isn't done but good to get started as we wasn't even going to start this year but this came out of the blue.
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Brian

[western mainer]

Well it's been awhile. Today the 500 gallon head tank showed up, and we went to Petes in NH. and got a used 3 bay stainless sink with 2 side boards and a 30"x60" stainless table. Now to get water to the sugar house. I still have tubing to put up.
Brian

[western mainer]

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Adding on, 14X 20 from rain to 90 plus.
Brian

[western mainer]

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Here's another photo
Brian

[western mainer]

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With all the rain I'm getting it done. I will be adding a retail counter.
Brian

[smith11]

Brain I appreciate your work. Very good piece of modification. Seems to be very different. Can you tell what arrangements have you made to control temperature ?
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[spud]

Very nice sugar house Brian. You might want to move the mainline before you fire the ol girl up.:o

Spud

[western mainer]

Yes the mainline will be going up soon.
Brain I appreciate your work. Very good piece of modification. Seems to be very different. Can you tell what arrangements have you made to control temperature ?
As for temp control open the doors and let cool air in. The evaporator is insulated so it takes 2-3 hours to get thing heated up in the space that is 20X 28'
Brian