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syrupkid
05-05-2010, 10:04 PM
For my trees of tubing this year i used mostly used 30p and liked it I also had a roll of 5 year maplepro tubing and hated it a bunch of the fittings pulled off and when ever we had a 55 degree day all the malplepro stuff sagged a lot I am planning on another 200 trees on tubing next year and wanted to know the best tubing out there So far im leaning twords 30p max flow Just wondering what stuff is the best so i dont make the same mistake as last year

driske
05-05-2010, 11:15 PM
SK,
Like you, I am a fan of 30P.

wdchuck
05-06-2010, 06:21 AM
I've been using 30P for quite a number of years now- I just think it's better on all counts- also I'm told it's smoother on the inside and washes up better.

maplwrks
05-06-2010, 06:35 AM
As far as rigid tubing goes---30P is king. There are better semi rigid tubing out there than Leaders, but all I use is Leader rigid

Father & Son
05-06-2010, 09:37 AM
My experience with tubing is limited. Two years ago I put up some CDL 4 seasons on land that has very little slope. On warm days there is some sag. I think if there was more drop it wouldn't be as bad. This past season I used 30P and made my drops from some left over 4 seasons. That's the combination I think I will stick with. You can pull the 30P nice and tight with no sag and have flexible drops with the 4 seasons.

Jim

Breezy Lane Sugarworks
05-06-2010, 11:16 AM
I like 30P but have also had good luck with CDL Semi-rigid when it's cold out.

adk1
05-06-2010, 11:35 AM
I plan on buying Leaders 30P in 3/4" to run from my dumpstations down to my tank

bigtreemaple
05-06-2010, 12:55 PM
Lapierre rigid is very comparable to the 30P works just as good I think, I have some of both. Lapierre also has a very good semi- rigid that has a 10 year warrantee.

adk1
05-06-2010, 01:32 PM
ok, someone explain what I should be using then? Will ahve two lines going from simple bucket dumpstations to a tank. One line will be short probably 50 yards, the other I would guess 150 yards. rigid or semi rigid? I think I can do pretty much a straight shot on both.

DrTimPerkins
05-06-2010, 01:34 PM
ok, someone explain what I should be using then? Will ahve two lines going from simple bucket dumpstations to a tank. One line will be short probably 50 yards, the other I would guess 150 yards. rigid or semi rigid? I think I can do pretty much a straight shot on both.

Don't use either, use 3/4" black water pipe.

Maplewalnut
05-06-2010, 01:44 PM
ok, someone explain what I should be using then? .

Would you buy a Chevy, Ford or Dodge truck?

There is no right or wrong answer...educate yourself, do some research on pricing etc. but sometimes you just have to make a decision by yourself

Maplewalnut
05-06-2010, 01:45 PM
I've had good luck with CDL and lapierre semi for lats and drops

adk1
05-06-2010, 02:00 PM
the good Dr. has spoken, bet its a heck of alot cheaper and since the sap wont be in the line very long shouldnt affect the taste.. Jsut looked and at Tractor Supply I can get 400' for $80.

red maples
05-06-2010, 03:57 PM
mainline 3/4 inch water pipe. works good cleans well, lasts for years, and is easy on the wallet.

I use lapierre rigid for laterals and did rigid for drops no knowing so when I re-do my drops with the new check valves (probably for the 2012 season) I will switch them to semi rigid so they are more flexable!!!

mapleack
05-06-2010, 04:47 PM
For my trees of tubing this year i used mostly used 30p and liked it I also had a roll of 5 year maplepro tubing and hated it a bunch of the fittings pulled off and when ever we had a 55 degree day all the malplepro stuff sagged a lot I am planning on another 200 trees on tubing next year and wanted to know the best tubing out there So far im leaning twords 30p max flow Just wondering what stuff is the best so i dont make the same mistake as last year

I don't know whats so special about the "max flow" to warrant an extra 20 bucks a roll. I like 30p and will keep using the regular, I'm not paying $65 a roll for tubing.

syrupkid
05-06-2010, 06:10 PM
I was liking the max flow grip because the landownerwants the tubing taken down every year so he can bird hunt without having to walk aroung/under all the tubing and so he doesnt shoot it full of holes

lpakiz
05-06-2010, 11:05 PM
here's a pic of some 30P lateral line I purchased 11 months ago and installed last fall...

Mark
05-07-2010, 11:08 AM
I tried some 30P this year but am going back to IPL. My 11 year old IPL looks like it is in good shape. I have had to change a few fittings but not the tubing.

maple flats
05-07-2010, 12:51 PM
here's a pic of some 30P lateral line I purchased 11 months ago and installed last fall...

Ipakiz, how did you put the tubing onto the fittings? I have used 30P since 2003 and have never had even one crack like you show in the picture. One year I tried a few rolls of Lapierre and found it stretched too much after being up a few months so I returned to 30P. I have a suspicion you likely did something wrong to get that. Did you apply it cold with a tubing tool?

ennismaple
05-07-2010, 02:00 PM
We've got over 40,000' of Lapierre semi-rigid up and it's all we'll use now.

dgp219
05-07-2010, 06:20 PM
I've used IPL grey rigid for 10 years, never cracked or pulled apart. The grey is not obtrusive if you tap near your neighbors. Also use 4 season for drops. Rigid makes lousy drops. Just another opinion.

brookledge
05-07-2010, 08:02 PM
The one thing I think we can all agree on is that rigid is lousy for drop lines. Way to stiff and likely to kink. Those that have not been around that long should be thankfull the vinyl stuff that used to be the only type out there is gone. The green US Maple and the Lamb flow would stretch and sag so bad that every time you cut it shorter to tighten it up you were actually reducing the inside diameter and soon it was so thin that the sap could hardly flow through it
Keith

PARKER MAPLE
05-07-2010, 09:10 PM
i used the cdl semi ridged last season and loved it.

lpakiz
05-07-2010, 11:36 PM
Maple Flats, I used a tubing tool to press these together cold. This happened to 2 rolls out of 6, so i think it was a bad batch and I got lucky...
The other rolls seem OK (for now)

markct
05-08-2010, 02:19 PM
i like the 4 seasons semi ridgid, i had tried the ridgid and a couple things i didnt care for were, for one it seems to need more attention, it changes more with the temp and needs adjusting, also its not as clear so ya cant see the sap flow like ya can with the 4 seasons, which is nice when finding vac leaks. leaders semi ridgid isnt as clear either, and i realy like being able to see bubbles in the line easy as i am walking by

Amber Gold
05-08-2010, 09:37 PM
I like the IPL semi-rigid. Fittings go on easily and it seals tight on fittings. I started off with the Lapierre semi, but didn't like it as much.

220 maple
05-08-2010, 10:27 PM
My favorite tubing is 4 seasons, but at 70 dollars a roll I changed to 30p. If the prices equal out at some point I will go back to 4 seasons tubing.

Mark 220 Maple

Killington Maple
05-09-2010, 06:07 AM
30 P for me. I use it for drops too. Can't see spending alot more money for flexable tubing for drops.

Randy Brutkoski
05-09-2010, 06:50 AM
I bought 180 rolls of green 30P last year and about 120 rolls had some sort of defect on them. alot of rolls had a horizontil slice on the out side of the tubing every 3 ft. but didnt quite go all the way through. And also what happened to about 80 rolls is when unrolling the tubing half way through the tubing would be twisted in a permanate position, which required a connector. The only reason i kept buying it was because it was so much cheaper than any other tubing. Actually killington maple was at grimmes in rutland when i showed Tom and Bill some of the defected line. They went through some of the rolls and couldnt find a perfect roll, ALL YEAR LONG. But they made it right and gave me 8 rolls for free.

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER
05-09-2010, 05:42 PM
I like the Lapierre translucent tubing. Reasonably priced and works good and you can see the sap in it good.