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Bill'sSugarShack
02-06-2010, 05:32 AM
Anyone know what temp a coffee urn puts out?

Thinking of useing one to filter into and have it keep hot for botteling..

sugar man
02-06-2010, 08:50 AM
i have used one for two years works great for bottling keeps syrup above 180 great for bottling never had a problem with one.:) ;)

Loun
02-06-2010, 09:52 AM
Someone on here said they had one that they had to take the temp sensor out of and replace it with a manual toggle switch so it would get hot enough, I think it was only heating up to 170. I found this one on Amazon.com that I was going to try, its cheap, and one of the reviews says it gets up to 190
http://www.amazon.com/West-Bend-58030-12-30-Automatic/dp/B00008IHA1/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1265467918&sr=8-2-fkmr0

Haynes Forest Products
02-06-2010, 11:09 AM
My water jacket type will get up to 200 degrees. When you use the direct heat type coffee maker try and bring the syrup up slowly because the element can boil a small amout of syrup as it heats up. If you notice that alot of them will over heat the water as it increases in temp and then shut down when it reaches the desired temp.

KenWP
02-06-2010, 11:13 AM
They are not all the same and of course as the points get corroded and such the way they work changes also. I have taken some of the old ones apart and cleaned the points but the newer ones have different temperature controls and don't work worth beans. Also check the element in the bottom and make sure its not calcified over and stops heat transfer. I would also not suggest getting it hot then pouring cold syrup on it as that will coat it with burnt sap and shock it to much. Don't ask how I know that.

Bill'sSugarShack
02-06-2010, 01:53 PM
They are not all the same and of course as the points get corroded and such the way they work changes also. I have taken some of the old ones apart and cleaned the points but the newer ones have different temperature controls and don't work worth beans. Also check the element in the bottom and make sure its not calcified over and stops heat transfer. I would also not suggest getting it hot then pouring cold syrup on it as that will coat it with burnt sap and shock it to much. Don't ask how I know that.

I plan to have it under my cone filter as i filter the hot syrup..just want to have it keep syrup hot enough to pack once it's done filtering.

If i don't can it then, the cold syrup will be left in and warmed slowly next time i boil.

Peepers
02-08-2010, 09:28 PM
So from reading around here it seems that using an urn coffee pot to filter/bottle hot syrup seems feasible for us small operations. Do any of you have recommendations or models to avoid? I'm looking at either the Hamilton Beach 40515 or West Bend 58002 42 cup urns on Amazon.

Also will either the #5 or #8 filters work in one of these? I wasn't having much luck finding filter cone dimensions online.

Thanks!

Stickey
02-08-2010, 09:56 PM
Should finished syrup be run through the "brewing process" on these, or is there a way to bypass? Iv'e never looked at one up close and I'm not picturing how these work. I'm imagining this being a mess if it it's anything like my household cofee maker!!
Sorry if this is a FAQ.

KenWP
02-08-2010, 11:17 PM
You take the stem and the basket out of them. The little round element in the bottom is free and clear to heat sryup with out it trying to perk.

wcproctor
02-09-2010, 08:17 AM
I have a West Bend 55 cup and it heats up to 190 and I think West Bend may be the wright choice the been making these for a real long time. Mine is older.

gunnergo4th
02-09-2010, 01:15 PM
How much syrup will the 55 cup urn hold?

Ewetopia
02-09-2010, 02:45 PM
About 55 cups.........

DanE.
02-09-2010, 03:17 PM
About 55 cups.........

Well, what kind of cup? a coffee cup or a measuring cup. If i remember correctly they are not he same. I think a coffee cup, as referred to a coffee maker is 6oz and a measuring cup for cooking is 4oz. but then I could be wrong. There was a thread about this over the summer. Dane.

KenWP
02-09-2010, 06:03 PM
A measureing cup for cooking is 8 ounces. Coffee cups are from 4 to 6 ounces.Depending on the maker. Makes perfect sense dosn't it.

DanE.
02-09-2010, 08:12 PM
A measureing cup for cooking is 8 ounces. Coffee cups are from 4 to 6 ounces.Depending on the maker. Makes perfect sense dosn't it.

almost got it right. I should have googled before I replied. :rolleyes: I knew they were not the same.

stoweski
02-09-2010, 08:24 PM
So from reading around here it seems that using an urn coffee pot to filter/bottle hot syrup seems feasible for us small operations. Do any of you have recommendations or models to avoid? I'm looking at either the Hamilton Beach 40515 or West Bend 58002 42 cup urns on Amazon.

Also will either the #5 or #8 filters work in one of these? I wasn't having much luck finding filter cone dimensions online.

Thanks!

I bought a small, 30 cup Continental coffee urn from Ocean State Job Lot a few months ago. Was on sale for $20. I tested it with an instant read thermometer and it got up to 190.
While at Bascoms a couple of weeks ago I bought a couple 5 quart cone filters. The filter fits over the top but I have to fold it down on the outside otherwise it touches the bottom of the urn making it useless. I'll clamp it in place on top with good 'ol Harbor Freight spring clamps.

30 cup urn looks small but I think it will do the job for me this season. We'll see.

Oh, also running a turkey fryer from Target ($49 on sale) to finish the syrup off of the 1/2 pint. Not a bad deal. Just need to put a valve on it and it's ready to go. May have to start a collection box for an upgrade next season to an actual finisher.... possibly the one Bill Mason has.

Keith