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howden86
01-14-2010, 03:21 PM
Has anyone actually planted these so called rpm trees or done comparsions with other trees transpanted with a tree spade. Do they actually grow that fast.
Thanks
caseyssugarshack93
01-14-2010, 03:44 PM
i planted one, plan to plant more this comming fall, they claim in 10 years they will be ready to tap, mines a rpm super sweet tree,
farmall h
01-14-2010, 03:46 PM
Casey, is that your real age on your signature? You look older on you tube!
nymapleguy607
01-14-2010, 05:39 PM
The Rpm trees are supposed to have an accelerated growth rate
I called to get some information on these and they told me tapable size in 18-20 years as opposed to 30-40 years for bare root
I was interested in the Super Sweet trees but I need to do some more research into them
RPM claims all the seed stock was from parent trees with at least 6% sap
However I have heard thet the Sweet trait isn't always passed down.
I know some one that has a few Super Sweets that are about 7 years old and we plan to test them this spring.
DrTimPerkins
01-14-2010, 06:18 PM
RPM claims all the seed stock was from parent trees with at least 6% sap. However I have heard thet the Sweet trait isn't always passed down.
The sap sugar concentration of "mother" tree are obviously known, and I assume were selected from known sweet trees. The fraternal parentage isn't known unless there was controlled pollination (highly unlikely), meaning the father tree is probably not particularly sweet (the average Joe equivalent of trees). Therefore, the sap sugar concentration of the progeny (seed-sapling-tree), on average, would be just a little higher than average. You might get lucky and get a real sweet tree....but then again, you might not.
caseyssugarshack93
01-14-2010, 07:11 PM
yes im 16 right now , turning 17 in feb
caseyssugarshack93
01-14-2010, 07:12 PM
my plan is to plant 50 of these and 50 regular sweet trees, but we will see after sugaring season, im starting a little maple plantation .
wcproctor
01-14-2010, 08:00 PM
Where can I find these trees?
DrTimPerkins
01-14-2010, 08:12 PM
Where can I find these trees?
Mostly in your wallet. :) They're fairly costly as you might expect.
caseyssugarshack93
01-15-2010, 06:27 AM
like 22.50 a peice or around there,
lmathews
01-15-2010, 06:58 AM
RPM Ecosystems llc
2150 dryden rd
dryden,n.y. 13053-9998
(607)844-9590
888-776-9590
www.rpmecosystems.com
howden86
01-15-2010, 09:22 AM
so basically one tree was planted so we actually don't know what they really do in the future.
lmathews
01-15-2010, 11:05 AM
You need to do some research it is pretty neat, and there is alot more than 1.
nymapleguy607
01-15-2010, 01:51 PM
I would liek to plant about 100 of theses trees if they are as good as they say they are.
I will be 23 in Feb. so at least I could tap these trees someday.
I am not sure if I want to plant the Super sweets or just plant regular sugar maples with the rpm root ball
We will see after this spring!
caseyssugarshack93
01-15-2010, 04:17 PM
we will see i have like 8 acres of feilds, and i plan to do one feild with some rpm super sweet and just some cornells sweet trees and see how they do, probably plant 100 if i can, i already transplanted about 10 or so regular sapling and ill see this spring if they took or not,
nam elpam
01-16-2010, 05:45 PM
I Also Am Trying To Start My Own Maple Grove I Planted 22 Hard Maples That I Picked With A Three Point Hitch Tree Spade From A Section Of Our Woods That The Soft Maple Had Died Off And The Few Hard Had Seeded Tons Of Saplings I Marked Them For Direction Of Which They Were Growing In The Woods And Planted In The Same Direction On Our Hillside Field In Thirtey Foot Spacing This Will Be Their Second Season. This Spring 16 Of Twenty Two Budded And Were Leaved Out Nicely If Things Go Well This Year Would Like To Finish The Planting With About 100 More. My Father Won 6 Of The Super Maples At The Winter Conference So Will Probably Add Those Also.
This RPM sounds really neat. You young people have the time to plant sugar maples and tap them. That is a great thing to do.
I have a friend who planted some of the sweet trees. I think the sugar content is higher, but what will also help them out will be the big crowns they get from being planted in a field.
We planted about 20 sugar maples and 10 reds last spring. Most of them made it. We're replanting those that didn't make it this spring.
wcproctor
01-19-2010, 08:33 AM
Ha Revi Cool U-tube
Buffalo Creek Sugar Camp
05-25-2010, 07:24 PM
Casey- How is your RPM tree growing? Has anybody else decided to try any of these trees? I would really like to see how these trees really do grow.
Randy Brutkoski
05-25-2010, 10:04 PM
where can you buy these trees?
caseyssugarshack93
05-25-2010, 10:08 PM
the last few weeks the tree has grown alot, Ill get some pictures of it this week probably. and get some like in fall time too.
sapman
05-25-2010, 10:45 PM
Mine is doing well, also. I have it planted in the same row as three regular sweet trees planted the year before. It's about the same height as the others that are doing well, but with a thicker stalk. All have great leaf coverage.
maple flats
05-26-2010, 04:39 AM
In reality we should all plant some regardless of our age. If we are too old, it should be for the next generations.
Consider why there are so many fully mature roadside sugars thru new England and much of the northeast, it is because back in Ben Franklin's time he pushed for the country to become sugar independent, and a payment was made (by the US gov't , might have even started before the start of the US) for planting the trees. This is where many of these trees came from. I'm sure many others were just the dominate tree in the mature forests of the day and others were removed for firewood while the sugars grew.
We should now plant for the future. The same as in my case where I work my forest stewardship plan with goals of a sustainable forest for generations after I am no longer making syrup on this earth but my operation above will have everything and every season will be perfect.
Gary R
05-26-2010, 05:58 AM
Buffalo Creek,
Try calling Karl Evans, 330-583-2892 a call. He is a maple dealer in NE Ohio. I was at his seminar last month. They talked about the RPM trees. The local producers pool together and purchase the trees. He should be straight with you as to how they grow.
We've planted some red maples, and I'm thinking of planting an Acer Freemani cross as an ornamental. Has anyone tried them for sugaring? They are a cross between a red and a silver and are supposed to be tough as nails for a street tree and turn a nice red in the fall.
http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plantfinder/Plant.asp?code=C789
gomish
05-26-2010, 11:56 AM
Since RPM maples are toted as a super high growth rate, I wonder if the life expectancy is shorter?
If they cost 22.50, better keep the deer away, one good night (for the deer) and the trees will be gone!
matthew gedeon
06-08-2010, 02:13 PM
There are silver maple trees that are tissue cultured (identical genetics) from St. Lawrence nurseries. Said to run 3-5% sugar content. tappable in 10 years grow in wet areas well. Cost is $22.00 each or $15.00 for 100 or more trees.
trees are one year old because farmer has trouble removing trees when they are any older.
Randy Brutkoski
06-08-2010, 09:20 PM
where is st lawrence nursery?
Thompson's Tree Farm
06-09-2010, 05:17 AM
Potsdam NY. Google them. The maples are not listed on the internet list
Randy Brutkoski
06-10-2010, 04:16 PM
Talked to a guy in Potsdam and just like that I have 50 super sweet maples coming this fall. $22.50 a piece.
ADKMAPLE
06-10-2010, 06:52 PM
I was just checking out Caseys super sweet in his photobucket..the leaves look nothing like a sugarmaple. Seem to be much bigger, could be something to do with its ability to produce more of what it needs to become "sweeter"
SilverLeaf
09-01-2010, 02:47 PM
So... how did those trees do this summer, Casey? I'm curious. Can you post some updated pics?
Also - are the super-sweet maples from St. Lawrence nurseries "RPM" trees? Their website didn't say anything about RPM. :confused:
Plutoman15
02-05-2018, 09:59 PM
Anyone have updates to the rpm trees? I am ordering some and I would love to know how everyone is making out with them. Are they big enough to tap yet?
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