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Bradenfish
10-29-2009, 06:45 PM
I plan on using 6-7 sap ladders in my system and I am wondering if that will cut down on the efficiency of the vacuum? pump is 20 cfm, 25 hg's.

Thompson's Tree Farm
10-29-2009, 07:19 PM
It may cut down slightly but if you have 20 cfm and 1000 taps you should be fine even with 6 or 7 ladders

maple maniac65
10-29-2009, 07:30 PM
I think you lose a couple of inches of vacuum for every 12 feet of ladder. But if each ladder was on a diffrent mainline you would not be losing much. Alot depends on how tight everything else is. I have a 16 foot ladder running 23 inches of vac and I have 19-20 at the last tap becuase I have leaks that just wont quit.

Jim Schumacher
10-29-2009, 09:42 PM
Could someone please post a picture of a ladder? I don't mean to sound like a total rookie, but I have no exposure to certain things in the maple world. Thanks
Jim

Thompson's Tree Farm
10-30-2009, 04:05 AM
Jim,
Go to Brian Ryther's pictures. He has some good pics. His ladders are pretty tall.

tuckermtn
10-30-2009, 05:15 AM
also check out Royal maples you tube site...

Brian Ryther
10-30-2009, 09:35 AM
I based my ladders on Royal Maples videos. My biggest ladder has 200+ taps on it. It has two 12' lifts. Each lift has two six way stars and a 3/4 tube. They work very well. If I have 25" at the releaser I will have 15" at the end of the lines. It is a pertty big drop, but 15" is a lot better then nothing. Even with the ladders I still averaged 20gal of sap per tap at this location.

Russell Lampron
10-30-2009, 05:54 PM
Bradenfish,

You can see some pictures of my 2 pipe sap ladder in my photobucket album. Just click on the link that says "SP 22 and lines". It works very good. I have over 200 taps on it and with 23" of vacuum at the pump I have 21" at the furthest end of the mainline which is about 1300 feet away from the ladder and another 1500 feet away from the pump. I averaged 19.2 gallons of sap per tap with mostly red maples. I could have done better if I had new taps in my older section of woods. They stopped running about a week and a half before the new ones going to the sap ladder did.