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The Birdman
10-18-2009, 09:42 PM
I have a lady that has 20 acers with a lot of maples. She ask what i would charge to make syrup from her sap. Have or do any of you do this for any one? what would you charge?

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER
10-18-2009, 09:46 PM
Split the syrup with her, give her a percentage of it in syrup and keep the rest would be about the best thing I would think. Might want to get a contract if you are going to have to set it all up.

3rdgen.maple
10-18-2009, 10:00 PM
Well alot would depend on how much of the work each of you are gonna do. Is she tapping and running the tubing or buckets or just supplying you the trees? If she is just allowing you to tap her trees do a search on here about what people charge per tap.

The Birdman
10-18-2009, 10:10 PM
Sap well be delivered. May have to help her with some tapping .

KenWP
10-18-2009, 10:59 PM
How good looking is she would be my first guestion and does she have a husband would be the second. Then you can discuss the other issues. If you can workout a share crop situation would probbably be the best way to go.

The Birdman
10-18-2009, 11:16 PM
ken she's single/div ok looking. thinking of moving south? you can leave your snow shoes we don't get that much snow.

peacemaker
10-19-2009, 12:44 AM
set a gal price for sap and then adjust it for sugar content ... maple pruducers manuel has a scale i think

NH Maplemaker
10-19-2009, 09:07 AM
Birdman, The frist of every year the Maple Syrup Digest prints a scale for what is the surgested price for sap by sugar content. Agree on price and then let her buy syrup at retail price, or may some cash and some syrup depending on how much syrup she needs! I have people that sell me sap, but just for cash. We go by the price surgested in the Digest. also check around your area as price maybe a little higher Or lower. But frist and foremost is be fair,Sap brought to your door is alway a good thing and can work for both parties!! Jim L.

C.Wilcox
10-19-2009, 10:03 AM
I have a lady that has 20 acers with a lot of maples. She ask what i would charge to make syrup from her sap.

Birdman-

Tell me you intended that pun... "Acers" with a lot of maples? :)

The Birdman
10-19-2009, 10:33 AM
Wilcox no pun intended. Maple maker there are not many producers around here. I think Indiana has became lazy. Total tap count for the state would be under 30.000 I think northern Indiana has one producer with 9000 tap count. I don't get the digest but I seen on the trader that .10 cent per point of sugar does that sound far.

dschultz
10-19-2009, 11:31 AM
Birdman,What I do is take what the price of bulk syrup is divide by 11 and divide that by 2 and that is what I pay per point per gallon for sap

The Birdman
10-19-2009, 12:50 PM
Birdman,What I do is take what the price of bulk syrup is divide by 11 and divide that by 2 and that is what I pay per point per gallon for sap

so @ $3.25 lbx 11.3= 36.72 a gal divide by 11= 3.33 divide by 2 = 1.67 x @2% if this is correct you pay 3.34 cents per gal of sap or 3.34 dollars per gal of sap @ 43gal sap $1.43 per gal of syrup or $143.00 per gal . Did you move the dsm point to make it .16 cent per point @ 2% = 32 cent per gal which sounds better @ 13.76 per gal of syrup.

KenWP
10-19-2009, 01:20 PM
Works out to 29 cents a gallon for sap in my books.

PerryW
10-19-2009, 01:29 PM
I figure $0.25 / Gallon for untested sap.

maplwrks
10-19-2009, 02:13 PM
Delivered Sap Should Be Treated Just Like You Were Buying It. You Should Test For Sugar %, And Pay Accordingly. I Would Split The Price Per Gallon 50-50. SO IF SYRUP IS BRINGING 2.50/LB
2.50*11= $27.50 /GAL--2% SAP =43 GALLONS SAP / GALLON SYRUP 27.50/43=63.95 CENTS PER GALLON OF SAP/2=31.97 CENTS PER GALLON---I KEEP A RUNNING TALLY FOR THE YEAR AND SETTLE UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN THE BULK PRICE HAS BEEN SET.

Fred Henderson
10-19-2009, 02:46 PM
maplwrks: That is the way it is done around here, and that is the fairest way I know of. If the person only was interested in selling sap then you could do it a little differently. Also how much investment the buyer has to come up with is a factor also.

brookledge
10-19-2009, 09:00 PM
Some will take the sugar content and multiply it by a fixed amount like 10 cents. for my area 10 cents is low but every area has it's own going rate.
The prices in the maple syrup digest is a guide.
Bottom line is that unless there is someone else that might want to by the sap you don't need to pay to much.
Keith

The Birdman
10-20-2009, 09:03 PM
There are olny 2 or 3 producers with in 30-40 miles none of which buy sap. I think I'll be the first in the area maybe the state.

brookledge
10-20-2009, 10:49 PM
Well if that is the case then to me the value of the sap is less unless it is syrup. Since there is nobody nearby that will buy any sap, what other options does she have.
At the same point do you want to take advantage of her?
Good luck
Keith

The Birdman
10-20-2009, 11:24 PM
She don't have time to do the boiling herself yet. I want to be fare, she could supply a bunch of sap for years. that's why I ask you all to find a fare price. Thanks to all Pat