Coffee Maker size?

[Dennis H.]

I was planning on using a commercial coffee maker to preheat and bottle my syrup this year but since I am not a coffee drinker I have no clue on what the conversion from cups is to gals.

I was looking at either a 60 cup or 100 cup coffee maker but I am not sure how many gals of syrup they will hold, does any one any idea how many gals they would hold or how many ounces there is in a "cup" of coffee??

[Grade "A"]

Well, google says that the average coffee cup size is 9oz. There is 128oz in a gallon. So 60 cup pot should be 4.21 gallons and a 100 cup pot should be 7.03 gallons.

[PerryW]

As far as coffeemakers go, a Cup of Coffee is 6 ounces.

So 60 cups is 2.8 gallons and 100 cups is 4.7 gal.

[brookledge]

Perry is correct 6 oz. I know some use them and they work ok but I have heard that some don't heat it hot enough. So I don't know if you can look into whether the thermostat in them can be ajusted or not.
Keith

[Dennis H.]

Thanks guys for the info.

I will see if I can find any info on temp and if it can be adjusted.

[Grade "A"]

Sorry Dennis, google got me again. Thanks for the correction, makes a big difference.

[KenWP]

Google was right if you go by a cup used for bakeing which is 250ML which is more or less 9oz. But with coffee makers your in different cup sizes so then you have to go smaller. My stupid coffee maker has a line that says 10 cups but for me to get 4 cups of coffee out of it I have to fill above the line.

[Jim Schumacher]

I would definitely ask Haynes about this one.

[Haynes Forest Products]

HAYNES thinks Dennis H should start bidding on Ebay Item No. 200390196158 This baby is all you will ever want in a bottler.
1) water jacket heating
2) will never burn or scortch the syrup
3) will hold 3 gallons of syrup in each side
4) two people can bottle at once
5) supply of hot water for bottle rinsing and cleaning
6) water jacket temp guage
7) will maintaine water from warm to about 200 degrees
8) stainless steel inside and out
9) 220 volt for quick heat up of large amounts of syrup
10) cost $2150.00 new so I would get a bid in fast
11) its one bad shinny mass of SS that would make any grown man just want to sit and stare at it
12) Its in PA
13) you can use it to pluck chickens
14) no drip valves that shut off when you let go because your jumping up and down because you just over filled a bottle and your wearing cotton gloves *&%@%$_(*^%$%#$
15) site glasses for each tank so you know how much syrup you have

[Jim Schumacher]

Told you:)

[Dennis H.]

Holy Cow Haynes, that is one heck of a coffe maker!

It looks like it is 220 single phase, I could use that.

If I remember right that is something like what you have, correct?

I will have to find out where Pittston, PA is and see if it is worth the drive.

[Dennis H.]

Oh by the way Haynes is #'s 11 & 14 from 1st hand experience???

[Haynes Forest Products]

Everything but the chickens. Yes 14 is the big one. I get gloves from a butcher shop.they are heavey duty thick white cotton for working in the freezer and they are nice for holding hot glass..........BUT when you get to going and you are looking at something else and you forget to shut the valve YIKES. I had a bottler that I made with a small ball valve and every so often you would get distracted and forget what direction the lever went:o

The valves that are on coffee makers are nice because they are spring loaded and return to the off position with very little drip. They also have a stay open position that is for filling big items and cleaning. Next time at 7-11 give the valves a good work out.

As far as staring at objects it is what I like to call "THINKING" and it can take up better part of my day;)

[Dennis H.]

Haynes how empty will the coffee maker empty by the valve only?
I am kind of curious as to how much syrup will remain in there and how to empty it. I looked and found that this thing weights in at 95lbs. Kind of tough to lean it over to empty the thing!

I have been looking for a warmer/bottler for some time now and I found some nice 60 and 100 cup coffee urns for the same price but none have been stainless, and no where near as fancy.

Dang you Haynes! Now I am looking at getting somthing else for my hobby!!:lol:

[tuckermtn]

not if I outbid you...

[Haynes Forest Products]

Mine and Im sure this one leaves very little. The screw fitting in the bottom fit into a indentation like a sink so you dont leave much. I just dump a cup of hot water into it with the spigot open into a cup and into the evap. NO tipping required. For total cleaning I just stick a plastic hose over the spout and to the floor and hit it with the hose and scotch brite pad and its squeeky clean. This baby has all sorts of features like low water shut offs and if its like mine there is a hot water spray spigot that swings from tank to tank that showers hot water from the water jacket into the tanks for brewing and it works great for washing out the tanks.

In Door county they have a FFA pancake breakfast every year and they used 5 coffee pots to try and keep up with the hundreds that show up at the same time and they found out about the HOLY GRAIL of coffee makers I had and now its on loan every July.

I want to add No. 16 to the list they come with filter baskets that sit on the top for the coffee grounds to set in. You can get 500 filters for about $100.00 and yes they will work:o :o :o And whats nice is the covers will sit on the baskets so the heat and moisture that will rise from the finished syrup will help keep the filters hot and dripping.

So guys I expect to see a question to the seller if all the baskets are pressent and if they have the filters.

[Haynes Forest Products]

OK guys I asked the question. I see we have a bidder so lets all sit back and watch.

[Dennis H.]

Come On who is bidding on this thing???

[Z/MAN]

Pittston is located mid way between Scranton and Wilkes Barre Pa:) .

[Haynes Forest Products]

OK guys remember if you out bid Dennis H you will have a hard time bragging about it on this site. No it cant be cut in half:(

[steamvalleyFarms]

Anything can be cut in half if you have the right tool.....:::rolleyes:

[Jim Schumacher]

Alright Haynes. Our mouths are watering over that coffee maker. Question: I had in mind some type of bottler that I could finish my syrup in. I draw it off of the evaporator at about 60-64 brix and finish it on a small pan, and bottle it from there. You know what little steam has to be removed to bring syrup from 60% to 66.5% sugar. Could a coffee maker like that get hot enough to steam it at a reasonable rate? I know that the surface area is small, but if it could operate with the covers open it should work...Right? If so I would keep my eyes open for a similar product closer to us.
Jim

[Jim Schumacher]

I suppose I would have to refilter it again...

[Haynes Forest Products]

Like most things that involve heating its all about TIME and TEMPERATURE so with that in mind you can evaporate liquid off the syrup without boiling it but it will darken it. I think its best to get to density ASAP and then bottle. If you were to fill the bottler/coffee maker with syrup that was at the perfect density and it was at 195 degrees ready to bottle and you shut it off and let it cool with the lids off the syrup would be over the next day so yes you could use it to finish I just think its not a good way of doing it.

[Jim Schumacher]

Ok. guys. Just have to brag a little. We have been watching the ru-300 on ebay. There was also a ru-600 on ebay untill about 35 minutes ago............................when I baught it!! This thing is the same as the ru-300, only twice the size. I pick it up in Mackinaw city, Mi on Saturday.

[Dennis H.]

congrats Jim on the new bottler, I saw it a few days ago but it would be way to big for my little operation.

[Jim Schumacher]

Yes, a little too big for me too, but I don't ever plan to stop growing at this thing.

[dschultz]

Jim,How many gallons will it hold?

[Jim Schumacher]

It has a 12 gallon capacity. It actually has two 6 gallon urns. I haven't actually seen it yet, other then in pictures, but I think I can use it with only one urn. If not, I'll fill one of the urns with water. The most I ever drew off at once was about eight gallons, which takes me most of a day to establish with my homemade evaporator. I'll try to post a link so you can check it out, I would like to see what you think of the unit as a bottler anyway.
Jim

http://www.cw-usa.com/equipment-commercial-urnbrewers-wilbur-curtis-ru600.html

[Jim Schumacher]

P.S. I didn't pay anywhere near $2999.95

[Haynes Forest Products]

Jim You dont have to fill the other tank with water to run the unit. You can but it takes longer to heat up thats all. How did I miss the auction? What was it listed under?

[Jim Schumacher]

I just searched for commercial coffee makers and it came up with about thirty other items. I am not very familar with ebay and have bought few items there. I guess this was not really an auction item, they just had a price on it for $499.99, I offered them $400.00 and left my phone number (via email) and they called me in about twenty minutes to make arrangements for me to pick it up. The thing is mint. They had about fifteen pictures of it, looks like it was never used.
Jim

[dschultz]

It has a 12 gallon capacity. It actually has two 6 gallon urns. I haven't actually seen it yet, other then in pictures, but I think I can use it with only one urn. If not, I'll fill one of the urns with water. The most I ever drew off at once was about eight gallons, which takes me most of a day to establish with my homemade evaporator. I'll try to post a link so you can check it out, I would like to see what you think of the unit as a bottler anyway.
Jim

http://www.cw-usa.com/equipment-commercial-urnbrewers-wilbur-curtis-ru600.html

Jim,looks like a very nice unit,bring it over I'll try it out for you:lol:

[Haynes Forest Products]

Sounds like you made a great deal. If you ever need a site glass dont get it from Curtis. Mine had a cracked glass and after looking high and low I called a good supply house taht sells boilers and they had 24" pieces for $12.00 and they cut it to size. I can say that I didnt pay the $7000.00 price that Grindmaster wants for mine:D

[Jim Schumacher]

I'm glad you guys like it. I want to thank Dennis H. for starting this thread and Haynes for is commercial coffee maker expertise, they lead me to this deal. I leave for the cabin after work tonight, from there I will drive to pick it up tomorrow. I'll see you guys Sunday night. Haynes, there is no doubt I will have a lot more questions after I have this thing in my hands...

[Haynes Forest Products]

OK boys lets fess up who got the RU300 for $204.00 Thats a great deal.

[steamvalleyFarms]

Not me,thought about bidding, but never did.

[tuckermtn]

I will confess...now just need to get down there to pick it up...anyone down Scranton PA area coming up this way?

there is another RU-300 up for sale now also...

[Dennis H.]

Thanks tucker for out bidding me!! :mad: At least you didn't get it for $99!!:evil:

With just getting a milk tank and having to run the tubing yet I just couldn't go above $200, sorry Haynes. I really wanted it but, $@#t happens.

[Haynes Forest Products]

Thanks Tuckermtn.....its a three phase but Im sure I can make that shinny thing work as a back up:rolleyes:

[Haynes Forest Products]

I havent seen any bragging about the Coffee maker from Ebay:evil: Come on step up and share.

[Jim Schumacher]

I was waiting until I had time to make an adapter to plug it into my welder outlet in the garage and make a temporary water supply for it before I bragged just too much. I will say that it is in brand new, right out of the crate condition. It does not have so much as a tiny superficial scuff on it. The guy bought it to serve a jumbo Mcdonalds somewhere in lower Mi and immediatly found out that it was too big to serve every Mcdonalds in the state all at once. When we met to make the exchange he began to explain how to use it to make coffee. I stopped him and told him it will never make coffee again but will be used for three weeks per year as a maple syrup bottler. He gave me a look like I was nuts, seemed like he wanted to take it away from me. Luckily he would never be able to lift it himself even if he wanted to. It truely is a beautiful machine. I am soooooo glad I didn't start building my bottler before this thread was started. I look forward to growing into it.:D

[Haynes Forest Products]

So tell me about the the 3 phase part or doesnt it matter when it comes to heating elements? I supose we will never get the town you live in posted now:rolleyes: Well good job on the find and enjoy.

You can bottle bigger containers with a hose clamped onto the valve BUT I would file a small grove around the lip of the spout so the clear hose doesnt slip off................I hear it can happen:mad:

[KenWP]

3 phase would not work around my place. I have to do with 2 phase 220 instead. I have had to put up with underpowered pressure washers and high power bills for years becasue of our good old single wire power supply.By the way a 2 phase pressure washer works on a 3 phase plug in but not the other way around. I used to have to lend mine to another farm when they broke theirs but had to fix my own when it broke down because of that.

[Jim Schumacher]

Haynes, Mine is a single phase. It takes the same supply as an electric dryer or a range.

I only have one question so far. How do I drain the water jacket? It is mostly empty now, but I hear at least a couple of gallons sloshing around. Any ideas?

[Haynes Forest Products]

Shuld be a plug in the bottom for a positive drain mine had a valve that went into a sink