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twobears1224
05-26-2009, 01:01 PM
i,ve talked about this pan before.yesterday,i took a walk in the woods and found it again.it,s on a large chuck of state owned land in new york.
i still can,t believe i found it yesterday.i haven,t been back to it in 20 years and in the mean time a very big wind storm blow most of the trees over and brush grow back.you can bearly see thur the wood now.i really had no clue how to find it again.i just walked a skidder trail that headed off that way and when it felt right i walked of the trail right to the arch/pan.. ooo,it,s about a half mile back in the woods.

heres some pic,s. it,s a 4x24 arch as far as i can tell.the pan with the tubes is 4x2

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/thrutubepan01.jpg

another one
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/thurtubesideveiw03.jpg

and again

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/thurtubepantopveiw04.jpg

and the last one of the tube size

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/thurtubesize02.jpg

it had this pan and i think two flat pans.one flat pan is still there but it,s sunk into the ground and i couldn,t get a good pic of it.it,s 4x13.5
the arch is cement with fire brick set into the cement.i think they stacked the fire brick and them poured the cement in the forms.about a 1/3 of the bricks seem to be locked in the cement.

delbert

Haynes Forest Products
05-26-2009, 01:17 PM
That thing must have boils like crazy with the dropflue pipes the way they hold all that sap. Looks like the old type boiler you see from old steam ships

maplecrest
05-26-2009, 01:53 PM
my great uncles sugar house. or what is left has one out side of the foundation, with junk flue pans. i think that is an early preheater, for it is setting next to an old raised flue.i have walked by that for 20 years thinking that is what that is. and i think small bros made it. for the arch says small bros lightning on the top of the arch. that is still there

twobears1224
05-26-2009, 03:52 PM
HAYNES:I THOUGHT SO TOO.i,de like to see that pan in action and see how high that sap jumps.
another note.this setup is so old the flat pand is rivited together on the corners.it,s folded like a x-mas package and rivited to hold it and theres other metal pieces around there thats rivited too.

delbert

DanE.
05-26-2009, 04:54 PM
It looks like the sap goes around the outside of the tubes and the fire/gases got through the tubes. take a look at the third picture. looks like the pan is sitting upright and the is no way for the sap to get into the tubes and the other pictures show there are no caps on either end of the tubes. just my thoughts..... Dane

RileySugarbush
05-26-2009, 05:38 PM
That configuration is like a fire tube boiler in a locomotive. the combustion gasses go through the tubes and the sap surrounds them.

Look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aufgeschnittener_Kessel.jpg

KenWP
05-26-2009, 06:05 PM
Wonder who made that evaporator and just how they drained the thing. There has to be someplace one in good shape hopefully.

Fred Henderson
05-26-2009, 07:57 PM
I plan on going to the maple museum in NYS at Corgan this summer. I will see if there is anything like that there. What is in the pic's may not have been for making syrup.

twobears1224
05-26-2009, 08:04 PM
yep,the fire goes thur the tubes.

delbert

maplekid
05-26-2009, 08:41 PM
wf mason make a drop tube evap that is similar to that one. fire goes through the tubes

3rdgen.maple
05-26-2009, 09:48 PM
That thing is cool. I just wonder if a little moonshine went through that rig.

twobears1224
05-27-2009, 05:09 AM
i,ve been thinking the pan with the tubes had to be in the front of the arch not in the back.the arch is poured cement and the back 2/3,s is all filled in with dirt.they only left about four inches open for the fire to move thur.i,ll bet there was three pans on it.a flat pan over the firebox,the pan with tubes and another flat pan.
i doubt it was used for anything other them making maple syrup theres alot of old cement archs around here...most just had flat pans tho.
anybody got a pic of wf mason's drop tube pan? i,de like to see it.

delbert

3rdgen.maple
05-27-2009, 09:57 PM
twobears makes sense to me the way you explained it. I remember seeing an old evaporator a long time ago where they ran a flat pan as a preheater then a flue pan then the finishing pan.