help with sap ladder

[caseyssugarshack93]

im just wondering when u have a sap ladder lets say 8 feet high and then u run a short pice of mainlike prob 10 feet then have a other sap ladder but this one has the sap going down to a lower mainline thats like prob 5 feet high
can u do that with sap ladders and should i use a sap ladder for when the sap in going down to the lower mainline or just put a elbow from the 10 feet of mainline i have and just have it goin down to the lower mainline or can i even do any of this or do u guys even know what im talkin about


thanks nate

let me know what u think

[OGDENS SUGAR BUSH]

you dont need a ladder to drop your sap down, but why not use your slope and run it on an angle ?

RICH

[caseyssugarshack93]

What do you mean ?


nate

[mountainvan]

I have a 12 foot sap ladder to get 300 taps over a road. I didn't use an elbow to get it back down, just let the tubing hang down. One less fitting to get a leak at is my way of thinking.

[caseyssugarshack93]

Alright thanks guys now i know what to do cause i have a sugar bush that has prob 600taps or so and if i can to this other side i have to go over this guys crosscountry ski trail and there probably about 150 more taps over there
Thanks nate

[Beweller]

A setup where the sap is lifted and then returned to the starting level ideally has no vacuum loss. The down-leg provides "natural" vacuum which just (ideally) balances the pressure needed to lift the sap.

In practice, expect some losses, but not as great as an up-only ladder.

[caseyssugarshack93]

Thanks Guys,Im gunna have to set up ladder like this pretty soon,Just wondering if it can be dont THanks :]


nate

[ennismaple]

What you're doing is exactly what my brother and I will be building this weekend. We plan to simply slope the elevated mainline back down to the lower one.

[caseyssugarshack93]

Yes, I have to go over a trail so i set my ladders to go up and back down to a other mainline

[ennismaple]

We got the steel up for our sap ladder over the trail this weekend. It took us awhile because of working on ladders in the cold but we finally got the steel tightened around the trees at the right height and with shims between the steel and the tree. We'll get the tubing installed this coming weekend and I'll take some pictures to share with everyone.

[caseyssugarshack93]

Thanks,ennismaple, like to see them pics how mant taps are u lifting.?

[ennismaple]

For this ladder it's about 100. We're using 2 spiders. It's similar to the double pipe ladder I built because two - 3/4" mainline come together where we've got the ladder. To even out the lift we've joined the 2 lower mainlines together between the 2 spiders with a tee in between them that has a valve on the end to make cleaning easier. Pictures will explain it better but we're confident it will work.

[caseyssugarshack93]

Sounds nice im gunna have to run a sap ladder proably around 150 taps on it . simalar to ur set up :]

[ennismaple]

Sounds nice im gunna have to run a sap ladder proably around 150 taps on it . simalar to ur set up :]

3 spiders will work great for your situation - use 65 taps max per spider as your rule of thumb.

[caseyssugarshack93]

Thats what i was thinking im going to have my friend come up and map it out with me