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bison1973
02-27-2008, 09:37 AM
Are the special maple drill bits worth the extra money? Any advantages? Is there a difference between them and what you can buy at the hardware store.

hard maple
02-27-2008, 10:49 AM
The helix angle on the flutes is greater, which in turn makes a faster cut.
The tip is a 90 degree split point
I found a similar drill in MSC for 6.00 but it has a 118 point
There is a huge difference between these and your typical twist drills

bison1973
02-27-2008, 11:01 AM
But are they any better as far as sap yeild is concerned? Or any other advantages?

VtSugarhouse
02-27-2008, 11:06 AM
Your bits which are designed for tapping trees make a much cleaner hole and much less chace for leaks. Typically they do not wander when making a tap hole either.
I use the ones designed to do the job and have no vaccum leakage.

Russell Lampron
02-27-2008, 11:07 AM
They drill a smoother hole and do it very fast. Try one you'll like it.

Russ

maplecrest
02-27-2008, 12:01 PM
hey russ thanks for the input on the canadian bits. i put the drill on high and got twice as many holes per battery. and solved the soft maple issue. took a bit to get used to the speed. never tapped with a drill that fast before in my 35 years of tapping

Russell Lampron
02-27-2008, 05:29 PM
High speed, full throttle, push (gently) into tree, pull back out and release trigger. Nice clean hole. Insert tap, on to the next one.

Russ

maple flats
02-27-2008, 06:10 PM
I bought 2 maple bits from a Leader dealer, they will not cut a hole without pulling back out and going in again, to remove the shavings, these were a bad investment. I do not know who made the bits but I do not like them. As I start drilling they go in about 3/4-1" and stop cutting, I pull back and push in again, about same again for the next 3/4-1". I try to drill about 2" into the wood and it takes 2 or 3 tries. This is rediculous. The bits were new and look right but no cut. (yes, they are sharp) I have gotten tapping bits at the Verona Maple Conf in years past and they cut fast and in 1 try.

maple flats
02-27-2008, 06:12 PM
Where do you get the Canadian bits? do you have a part # for the 5/16 or 19/64 size?

royalmaple
02-27-2008, 06:39 PM
I got mine from lapierre, I'm sure the maple guys might have them in stock. It was 25-26 bucks. Works very very well.

Not sure if you guys have tried this, but I will brace my left shoulder against the tree, bend my arm and help brace the drill. THen run the drill with my right hand. Try it. Helps get a very secure grip on the drill and you will turn yourself into a human drill press before you know it.

peacemaker
02-27-2008, 07:03 PM
they are wicked fast and the will clog i find like royal said steady it but i also take the put it in the drill measure your depth you want and the take a dowel cut it for whats left and then drill it it will work as a stop .. i also found i keep eithier a brass brush or a plastic one and keep the bit clean

super sappy
02-27-2008, 07:13 PM
The Gov sent me one last year and I love it. Fast speed and do not push hard. use a piece of tubing for a stop. I think that if you are forceing it you are doing it wrong.-just my 2 cents

Russell Lampron
02-27-2008, 07:22 PM
I got my bit at Bascoms. It said Canadian on the bin that I got it out of and only says 5/16 on the bit. It was well worth the $21 I paid for it.

Russ

gmcooper
02-27-2008, 07:35 PM
I had my Bascom catalog handy here.
The numbers for 19/64 Canadian bit for use with battery drills BT5C
The 5/16 Canadian bit is BT7C
Each were $20.00