maple flats
08-21-2024, 05:39 PM
After 20+ yrs boiling using wood fired evaporators from a 2x3 to a 2x6 then a 3x8, I recently sold my wood fired evaporator. I bought a 2x6 wood fired raised flue evaporator I plan to convert to oil.
I have questions about how to proceed. I have a good friend who converted a larger evaporator to oil, since then he sold that rig, moved several miles away and bought land much closer to me. He now uses a oil fired 2x6. He "thinks the nozzle is 3.5 gph and the burner is a Carlin 301" My question what burner and nozzle is best for an oil fired 2x6 or good? Is the Carlin 301 best or is another best or can either do equally well? How about brand, are others as good and if so which are good. Is a 3.5 gph nozzle the right nozzle to use on a 2x6? Are there a few options that do very well?
For oil, do those who burn oil and have no heated storage for the oil use simple winter mix oil/kero blend?
For years I've had diesel delivered and I try to buy it before the oil is blended. I use Power Service additive and I've never had jelled fuel in my tractor nor my truck. (I have 2 diesel tanks currently, one is for off road and one is for on road) both get the Power Service. My thought is that jelling won't be a big issue for 2 reasons on the evaporator. When the sap is flowing the temperatures have moderated, and the fuel supply will likely have 2 lines, a supply and a return. As the fuel gets pumped to the burner and any excess is pushed back I'd think it would tend to raise the temperature some.
Where is a good place to get such a burner? I see some on Ebay, Facebook Marketplace and in Maple Trader classifieds as well as various vendors. Nozzles, I see choices, which is suggested, a 45 degree, an 80 degree or? Then hollow or solid?
I currently own a 150 gal tank that should be fine, I used it for 5 yrs for diesel at another location, but when I sold that location I brought the tank to my sugarhouse. I haven't checked to see if it has a low bung plug, but if not, I could get one installed, or can the oil be successfully drawn up thru a top fitting. This tank is an upright round tank. I have a good driveways from the road into the sugarhouse and I keep it plowed all winter so deliveries would not be an issue if I need a refill. I'm thinking a full tank might be enough for the 300 taps I might have in 2025 since I'll RO it to 8% or maybe even near 12%, my RO doesn't like going farther than 12%.
In the future I'm hoping to add up to 425 taps if I only tap my bush around my sugarhouse and I might possibly be able to rent about 50-60 taps from a neighbor who's dad planted some maples about 40-45 yrs ago, they are in 2 rows immediately adjacent to my eastern property line and running tubing would be quite simple.
My plan for the conversion is to pull the hinge pin, remove the door and replace the door with a 1/4" plate and mount the gun in that. I'd make it so, if ever needed I could remove the oil unit, put the original door on and burn wood.
My evaporator is a 2x6 with a 24x24" syrup pan and a 24x48" raised flue sap pan, (not like Leaders sizing where the label says for example 24x24" but when measured it's smaller. In fact I didn't measure my previous pans on my 3x8, I read the tags which said 36x24 Syrup pan and 36x72 sap pan. When set up there was also an almost 1" thick insulation seal between the two pans. I ordered a 36x36 syrup pan and a 36x60 sap pan (made by Thor in Quebec). When they arrived, I tried to set them up, they would not fit. I measured them and each was exactly as ordered. Since I had sold the original pans I don't know their length, but the new ones had a reinforced gasket between them of 1/4" thick, but the pan combination was slightly more than 2.1" too long. I ended up removing the base stack plate and made a new one so the pans fit fine.
I'm also thinking I may make a flip cap for the steam stack to keep things out when not being operated. Or I might get a China mans hat and screen it using SS screen.
Back to oil fired, I'm thinking the oil stack will need a barometric damper, correct?
I have questions about how to proceed. I have a good friend who converted a larger evaporator to oil, since then he sold that rig, moved several miles away and bought land much closer to me. He now uses a oil fired 2x6. He "thinks the nozzle is 3.5 gph and the burner is a Carlin 301" My question what burner and nozzle is best for an oil fired 2x6 or good? Is the Carlin 301 best or is another best or can either do equally well? How about brand, are others as good and if so which are good. Is a 3.5 gph nozzle the right nozzle to use on a 2x6? Are there a few options that do very well?
For oil, do those who burn oil and have no heated storage for the oil use simple winter mix oil/kero blend?
For years I've had diesel delivered and I try to buy it before the oil is blended. I use Power Service additive and I've never had jelled fuel in my tractor nor my truck. (I have 2 diesel tanks currently, one is for off road and one is for on road) both get the Power Service. My thought is that jelling won't be a big issue for 2 reasons on the evaporator. When the sap is flowing the temperatures have moderated, and the fuel supply will likely have 2 lines, a supply and a return. As the fuel gets pumped to the burner and any excess is pushed back I'd think it would tend to raise the temperature some.
Where is a good place to get such a burner? I see some on Ebay, Facebook Marketplace and in Maple Trader classifieds as well as various vendors. Nozzles, I see choices, which is suggested, a 45 degree, an 80 degree or? Then hollow or solid?
I currently own a 150 gal tank that should be fine, I used it for 5 yrs for diesel at another location, but when I sold that location I brought the tank to my sugarhouse. I haven't checked to see if it has a low bung plug, but if not, I could get one installed, or can the oil be successfully drawn up thru a top fitting. This tank is an upright round tank. I have a good driveways from the road into the sugarhouse and I keep it plowed all winter so deliveries would not be an issue if I need a refill. I'm thinking a full tank might be enough for the 300 taps I might have in 2025 since I'll RO it to 8% or maybe even near 12%, my RO doesn't like going farther than 12%.
In the future I'm hoping to add up to 425 taps if I only tap my bush around my sugarhouse and I might possibly be able to rent about 50-60 taps from a neighbor who's dad planted some maples about 40-45 yrs ago, they are in 2 rows immediately adjacent to my eastern property line and running tubing would be quite simple.
My plan for the conversion is to pull the hinge pin, remove the door and replace the door with a 1/4" plate and mount the gun in that. I'd make it so, if ever needed I could remove the oil unit, put the original door on and burn wood.
My evaporator is a 2x6 with a 24x24" syrup pan and a 24x48" raised flue sap pan, (not like Leaders sizing where the label says for example 24x24" but when measured it's smaller. In fact I didn't measure my previous pans on my 3x8, I read the tags which said 36x24 Syrup pan and 36x72 sap pan. When set up there was also an almost 1" thick insulation seal between the two pans. I ordered a 36x36 syrup pan and a 36x60 sap pan (made by Thor in Quebec). When they arrived, I tried to set them up, they would not fit. I measured them and each was exactly as ordered. Since I had sold the original pans I don't know their length, but the new ones had a reinforced gasket between them of 1/4" thick, but the pan combination was slightly more than 2.1" too long. I ended up removing the base stack plate and made a new one so the pans fit fine.
I'm also thinking I may make a flip cap for the steam stack to keep things out when not being operated. Or I might get a China mans hat and screen it using SS screen.
Back to oil fired, I'm thinking the oil stack will need a barometric damper, correct?