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TheNamelessPoet
02-08-2024, 02:35 PM
This of you with a Sureflo setup, I have about 40ish taps I want to put on vacuum instead of buckets on the ground. My question is, can I put a tank in the relative middle of them, along the driveway just out of the sun. Then run say 6 or so lines to the pump (which would be next to the tank) using the same 5/16 line I use for drop lines? Also, I will have 2 maybe 3 runs that are 100-150’ long and have about 6-10 taps on each of them. Is that too far? It is possible after the 1st year that I may go down to 40-50 taps if it is more than I can handle.

What would you say is the longest run I can get away with. The longest run could be about 200-300 with 10 taps on it making all the others 100 feet or less. This would also make emptying the collection tank easier as well.
I will switch to 3/16 drop lines most likely once I use up the roll of tubing I have.

I have been reading up on the plethora of info here on Sureflo setups and have a decent grasp on what I am going to need. I may do it this year at home on a much smaller scale just to make it easier and to see how it works out.

littleTapper
02-08-2024, 03:09 PM
You should be fine. I think my longest run is about 200'.

Do you have a layout that could work well with some 1/2" mainline and then shorter laterals?

Don't use 3/16 drops. Stick with 5/16 on a Shurflo. Too likely for the tree to pull in sap from them when they cool down and freeze at night if the lines aren't frozen yet. 5/16 leaves some gasses and room to avoid that. Many of us using 3/16 tubing for natural vac still use 5/16 drop lines for just this reason.

DRoseum
02-08-2024, 03:48 PM
Agree on drops comment. Only use 3/16 for drops if you plan to use CV spouts as well.

As for max distance, depends on lots of factors. I have multiple 3/16 lines over 1000 feet (ones about 1200) with 20+ taps and the shurflo pulls a consistent 27inHg at the pump (and higher at each tap) without any recirc line. Mind you I have great elevation drop for most my lines, but do have one that's very shallow drop across 900ft (12 taps) and it's fine.
https://youtu.be/XqPVJtPYBlo?si=4aEKPXnlxK-J-t3h
https://youtu.be/aGFwYIskHww?si=ahP3WFI8ttP4OUx6

TheNamelessPoet
02-14-2024, 08:02 AM
Agree on drops comment. Only use 3/16 for drops if you plan to use CV spouts as well.

As for max distance, depends on lots of factors. I have multiple 3/16 lines over 1000 feet (ones about 1200) with 20+ taps and the shurflo pulls a consistent 27inHg at the pump (and higher at each tap) without any recirc line. Mind you I have great elevation drop for most my lines, but do have one that's very shallow drop across 900ft (12 taps) and it's fine.
https://youtu.be/XqPVJtPYBlo?si=4aEKPXnlxK-J-t3h
https://youtu.be/aGFwYIskHww?si=ahP3WFI8ttP4OUx6excelent info thank you! and I do use the CV's. I figure the difference in price is about $5-$10 based on the amount of taps I use. I can understand if you have 1000 taps, but for us tiny peoples under $100, it seems silly to not if it helps.

TheNamelessPoet
02-14-2024, 08:02 AM
Agree on drops comment. Only use 3/16 for drops if you plan to use CV spouts as well.

As for max distance, depends on lots of factors. I have multiple 3/16 lines over 1000 feet (ones about 1200) with 20+ taps and the shurflo pulls a consistent 27inHg at the pump (and higher at each tap) without any recirc line. Mind you I have great elevation drop for most my lines, but do have one that's very shallow drop across 900ft (12 taps) and it's fine.
https://youtu.be/XqPVJtPYBlo?si=4aEKPXnlxK-J-t3h
https://youtu.be/aGFwYIskHww?si=ahP3WFI8ttP4OUx6excelent info thank you! and I do use the CV's. I figure the difference in price is about $5-$10 based on the amount of taps I use. I can understand if you have 1000 taps, but for us tiny peoples under $100, it seems silly to not if it helps.