Climate Change and the fear of losing Canadian syrup production

[Trends]

Nice read if your interested. Amongst climate change scenarios there is a very good (I think) tutorial on how sap is produced and the cause of flow.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/info/2023/sirop-erable-rechauffement-climat-niche-production-acericole-cabane-sucre-printemps-seve-quebec/en/

[Scm]

The ONLY reason we will loose maple syrup to so called "climate change" is BECAUSE of the PROPOSED "SOLUTIONS" to "fixing" the climate. The Future of Food. is NOTHING FROM NATURE according to the WEF and the UN. Clearly stated in their Covid-19 action plan (account required)

Cricket pancakes with High Fructose "pancake syrup" enjoy.
https://eatbeautiful.net/cricket-flour-pancakes-waffles/

[MarquisVII]

The ONLY reason we will loose maple syrup to so called "climate change" is BECAUSE of the PROPOSED "SOLUTIONS" to "fixing" the climate. The Future of Food. is NOTHING FROM NATURE according to the WEF and the UN. Clearly stated in their Covid-19 action plan (account required)

Cricket pancakes with High Fructose "pancake syrup" enjoy.
https://eatbeautiful.net/cricket-flour-pancakes-waffles/

100% accurate.

WAKE UP.

[SeanD]

Again, with the climate change = the UN and cricket pancakes? Even COVID got tucked in there. It looks like you are intentionally making certain conversations toxic, so the topics you disagree with get shut down. That's not how this forum works.

That cricket pancake recipe calls for maple syrup, btw. Reading is Fundamental.

[Scm]

Again, with the climate change = the UN and cricket pancakes? Even COVID got tucked in there.

Go get yourself an account and see for yourself
https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006O6EHUA0?tab=publications



It looks like you are intentionally making certain conversations toxic, so the topics you disagree with get shut down. That's not how this forum works.

All my links i provide are to THEIR solutions. Not "conspiracy theories". You should try looking into the proposed solutions. It's NOT what you think.



That cricket pancake recipe calls for maple syrup, btw. Reading is Fundamental.

We are not yet THERE. slowly, slowly, slowly, then suddenly
They already started attacking maple. "Scientists" say you can put up to three taps in a proper tree. Organic standards say no more than 2 because of....... "sustainability"

**Consensus** says people prefer fake syrup over the real stuff.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/03/27/why-americans-overwhelmingly-prefer-fake-maple-syrup/

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/03/27/why-americans-overwhelmingly-prefer-fake-maple-syrup/)thread lock in 3....2.....

[ecolbeck]

thread lock in 3....2.....

Thread lock?!? This is clearly a spam account. Let’s start there. Are we to expect you to subject us to your tirades every time someone posts something on climate change or any other topic that triggers you?

[Scm]

Thread lock?!? This is clearly a spam account. Let’s start there. Are we to expect you to subject us to your tirades every time someone posts something on climate change or any other topic that triggers you?

So only one side can be discussed?

[ecolbeck]

So only one side can be discussed?

What you’re doing isn’t discussion, it’s bullying and spreading disinformation. Besides that, nobody asked for a discussion on that topic. Nobody posted about climate change and asked for opinions on whether it was real. If you want to be taken seriously, try a little humility.

[Scm]

What you’re doing isn’t discussion, it’s bullying and spreading disinformation. Besides that, nobody asked for a discussion on that topic. Nobody posted about climate change and asked for opinions on whether it was real. If you want to be taken seriously, try a little humility.

If you post on a DISCUSSION forum, you are LOOKING for a discussion.

Now if you think I'm spreading dis information, Have you checked any of the links i posted. They are ALL from the people pushing the "solutions". Don't get mad at me because you are starting to realize your being conned.

[johnallin]

If you post on a DISCUSSION forum, you are LOOKING for a discussion.

Now if you think I'm spreading dis information, Have you checked any of the links i posted. They are ALL from the people pushing the "solutions". Don't get mad at me because you are starting to realize your being conned.

You’re a clown and a troll.
Seriously, can’t even show your location?
I think it’s time for you to hit the door.

[DrTimPerkins]

Keep it civil and keep politics out of the discussion folks. Yes, it’s a short leash. If you don’t like it, take your thoughts elsewhere.

[Scm]

You give me a hard time But The title of the thread reads:
Climate Change and the fear of losing Canadian syrup productionIt literally uses the word FEAR.

The DR Just said the other day that "climate change wont be friendly to or friends in the south"
Now there is FEAR in Canada.

If you go to the link i provided
https://intelligence.weforum.org/top...b=publications
and sign up for an account (I can't do this for you) and search, you will find an article the talks about that to save the climate the "Future of food" is "Nothing from nature". YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, I CANT DO IT FOR YOU.

The biggest treat to maple syrup is the solution.

While your FINALLY there, check out some more of their crazy ideas.

Someone has to say something.

ban me I don't care. It's how you win

[220 maple]

Dr. Tim,
It’s time to add a little humor, sort of like when posters fuss about dirty pipelines and I point out that I don’t have dirty pipelines, I put up black plastic prior to 2002, never been dirty as far as I can tell! Or at least I can’t see it’s dirty!
Now climate, technically we have another 40 to 50 thousand years before we’re out of this Ice Age! So I would have to believe it will continue to warm up! What is the plan at Proctor at that point! I understand why your retiring, with your knowledge you don’t want to be there when the ice age ends! Going to be difficult to make syrup at that point! Enjoy your retirement, stay hid from reporters, lots of interviews in the next 30000 years about climate change!
Mark220maple

[ecolbeck]

You give me a hard time But The title of the thread reads:
Climate Change and the fear of losing Canadian syrup productionIt literally uses the word FEAR.

The DR Just said the other day that "climate change wont be friendly to or friends in the south"
Now there is FEAR in Canada.

If you go to the link i provided
https://intelligence.weforum.org/top...b=publications
and sign up for an account (I can't do this for you) and search, you will find an article the talks about that to save the climate the "Future of food" is "Nothing from nature". YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, I CANT DO IT FOR YOU.

The biggest treat to maple syrup is the solution.

While your FINALLY there, check out some more of their crazy ideas.

Someone has to say something.

ban me I don't care. It's how you win

Wow. You signed up for an account with them? You know they’re tracking you now.

[ecolbeck]

Dr. Tim,
It’s time to add a little humor, sort of like when posters fuss about dirty pipelines and I point out that I don’t have dirty pipelines, I put up black plastic prior to 2002, never been dirty as far as I can tell! Or at least I can’t see it’s dirty!
Now climate, technically we have another 40 to 50 thousand years before we’re out of this Ice Age! So I would have to believe it will continue to warm up! What is the plan at Proctor at that point! I understand why your retiring, with your knowledge you don’t want to be there when the ice age ends! Going to be difficult to make syrup at that point! Enjoy your retirement, stay hid from reporters, lots of interviews in the next 30000 years about climate change!
Mark220maple

We’re still in an ice age? Please cite a source.

[DrTimPerkins]

ban me I don't care. It's how you win

Not sure exactly why you're here to begin with, since you've deleted the vast majority of your former posts. Your presence is certainly not to share information about things that work in maple and to help others in the maple community. Now it might come as a surprise, but I agree with you to the extent that the links you've posted are way out there on the fringe, and that sometimes SOME people either don't understand the science or cherry pick results to show the worst scenarios, however in any population of people there are the "fringes" on both ends of the curve (that's the nature of a distribution).

More personally, I take your use of "scientists" as a derogatory term (which seem to be your intention) poorly, but am trying to ignore it.

Bottom line...seems like you want (or expect) to be banned, and are hoping it'll happen so you can prove yourself right. You're not there quite yet. I think it would all be fine if you would like to share thoughts about maple production, sap collection, etc. that might be helpful to people if you have any. That's what this community is about. If that's not of interest, then there are lots of other places you can go and complain about politics.

Lastly, I've tried crickets and mealworms. They aren't bad if you put enough chocolate or BBQ sauce on them. Kind of crunchy. The odd part is that their little wings and legs don't dissolve in saliva, so you find little bits and pieces stuck in your teeth until you brush. :D

[DrTimPerkins]

Enjoy your retirement, stay hid from reporters, lots of interviews in the next 30000 years about climate change!

Hey Mark...reporters don't like to talk to us at PMRC about climate change so much these days. I don't want to lump reporters all in one bag, but at least a decent subset of them just want the horror story (bad news sells). We won't give them the easy answer that many of them are looking for (maple production has been and is being destroyed by climate change and will disappear in the U.S. and maybe Canada soon). We usually tell them right upfront that it is a very complex story that'll take an hour or two just to get the basics. Very frequently they don't like complex and just want a 5 min interview with a juicy quote/soundbite. So they choose to move on to others who will give them that OR they do a quick interview with us and use an incomplete quote or a quote out of context that suits their needs.

[PiperHill]

Here is the second part of the articles regarding the US

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/info/2023/sirop-erable-rechauffement-climat-niche-production-acericole-cabane-sucre-printemps-seve-quebec/etats-unis/?fromMobileApp=ios&intcmp=liste-weekend_index

Sorry this one is french but the graphic are self explained

[220 maple]

Dr. Tim,
I hope you understand my interjection of humor into something you and I can’t control, that being climate change! There is a group of people who believe they can effectively control the climate! Good Luck with that! If you google are we still in a Ice Age, answer is Technically we have another 30 to 40 thousand years to go.What is that period of time called during the heat age? From my non scientific view point, going to be a little more difficult to make syrup in 40000 years! Come on folks! Smile a little bit!
Mark220maple

[Galena]

Where's the important stuff...y'know like the popcorn-munching emoji?