MillbrookMaple
03-14-2020, 11:49 AM
Probably should put this in the RO section but I really want the tinkerers to look at this post.
I have an old EcoChem RO that a few years back had the head seal go on the membrane vessel and leaked profusely when it ran and finally killed the pump motor on the top of the vessel. Tried having a local machine shop replace the motor and fix the seal with no luck. (it leaked worse and I stopped using it before I ruined another motor) Since the unit was older, and finding replacement parts was impossible, I decided to scrap fixing the vessel and sits unloved on the frame. Being low on cash, We purchased a couple of codeline vessels and filmtec membranes from EasternRO. I put them in series and we are currently getting 8-9GPM Permeate with 4GPM of Concentrate first run with the PSI between 250-300 depending on Temp and sugar % of sap and how long it has been since I ran a wash. This is higher capcity than the old vessel could ever do. My High Pressure pump is a 7.5 HP. Recirulation is achieved by a needle valve that plumbs output back into input side of Vessels. I do multiple passes and try to get my sap between 12 and 15% before sending it to my saphouse head tank. I want to maximize the potential of my HP pump and increase my processing speed while still being cost conscience.
I have 2 Questions.
#1 Should I get a maple industry post to put after my current pair or Should I just double what I Already have?
I'm not sure even what new maple industry posts are going for now but for about $2500 I can get 2 more vessels and membranes from EasternRO. I am guessing doubling what I have should increase my permeate flow to around 13-14GPM total first pass.
#2 Those of you that think I should buy 2 more Non-industry membranes and vessels, should I run them in series or parallel with my current ones?
Series would be higher flow rate thru all membranes. Parallel would be less extreme conditions on the last 2 in the line which would have them all clog more evenly.
Just an FYI I've been thinking about how to do the plumbing. My plan is if I do them all in series I would make it so I could reverse the flow each time I run a load so the first becomes the last in series each time flowing in the opposite direction. If I do parallel I will put shut offs before and after each leg so I can isolate them to rinse and clean each pair with maximum flow thru them.
I have an old EcoChem RO that a few years back had the head seal go on the membrane vessel and leaked profusely when it ran and finally killed the pump motor on the top of the vessel. Tried having a local machine shop replace the motor and fix the seal with no luck. (it leaked worse and I stopped using it before I ruined another motor) Since the unit was older, and finding replacement parts was impossible, I decided to scrap fixing the vessel and sits unloved on the frame. Being low on cash, We purchased a couple of codeline vessels and filmtec membranes from EasternRO. I put them in series and we are currently getting 8-9GPM Permeate with 4GPM of Concentrate first run with the PSI between 250-300 depending on Temp and sugar % of sap and how long it has been since I ran a wash. This is higher capcity than the old vessel could ever do. My High Pressure pump is a 7.5 HP. Recirulation is achieved by a needle valve that plumbs output back into input side of Vessels. I do multiple passes and try to get my sap between 12 and 15% before sending it to my saphouse head tank. I want to maximize the potential of my HP pump and increase my processing speed while still being cost conscience.
I have 2 Questions.
#1 Should I get a maple industry post to put after my current pair or Should I just double what I Already have?
I'm not sure even what new maple industry posts are going for now but for about $2500 I can get 2 more vessels and membranes from EasternRO. I am guessing doubling what I have should increase my permeate flow to around 13-14GPM total first pass.
#2 Those of you that think I should buy 2 more Non-industry membranes and vessels, should I run them in series or parallel with my current ones?
Series would be higher flow rate thru all membranes. Parallel would be less extreme conditions on the last 2 in the line which would have them all clog more evenly.
Just an FYI I've been thinking about how to do the plumbing. My plan is if I do them all in series I would make it so I could reverse the flow each time I run a load so the first becomes the last in series each time flowing in the opposite direction. If I do parallel I will put shut offs before and after each leg so I can isolate them to rinse and clean each pair with maximum flow thru them.