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batsofbedlam
02-11-2019, 08:01 AM
Has anyone put heat tape on their releasers to keep them from freezing up? One of my double releasers is in a shed that is unheated and freezes when the temp drops below 20 degrees. I don't think the tapes will affect the releasers.

DrTimPerkins
02-11-2019, 08:52 AM
Has anyone put heat tape on their releasers to keep them from freezing up?

Yes, heat tape will work fine. Put some around the bottom and also one loop around/near the outlet/lip of the releaser. We've had ice form on drop coming out right at that spot that won't allow the releaser to seal again after dumping it's contents. Don't overlap the heat tape onto itself.

johnallin
02-11-2019, 10:42 AM
I've got a similar situation. The new releaser will be outside the sugar house - for this season anyway. I may need to use heat tape but have another thought.

It's a new style 12x24 electric realeaser from CDL. It has a deep well pump laying horizontal inside the tank which pumps through a check valve
at the pump output (circled in the photo) and a drain at the bottom.

I'd like to place a cam-loc where the CV meets the tank so I can disconnect the CV, flip the valve and empty the water out. It holds water above the flap and will freeze for sure and crack the valve. I'm not sure if it needs that water sitting on top of the flap to help it pull closed under vacuum, or if it will automatically pull tight.

If I can empty the CV, I can then open the drain at the bottom of the tank and the unit is water free.

Any suggestions? I'm sure I'm missing something here...thank you John.

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DrTimPerkins
02-11-2019, 12:16 PM
We have that same CDL releaser (or one that is very similar). The issue with the plan you've outlined John (if I understand you correctly) is that the sap will sometimes continue to trickle in slowly over many hours as the woods freezes up. Some parts of the woods may not freeze and run all night. So you'd either have to disconnect the releaser and let that sap run on the ground (thinking it's going to freeze) and risk losing sap if you disconnect the releaser, OR if you don't drain it and it does end up freezing, it could crack or damage the pump/releaser. Plus if you do disconnect, you'd have to be sure to hook it back up again BEFORE the sap starts to run again the next time.

Another problem with a releaser and/or moisture trap that is out in the cold is that if they freeze up, the sap can bypass and get pulled into the pump. We've had moisture traps in the shed where the water accumulated in them over time and freeze the ball in place so it couldn't seal, defeating the protection that the moisture trap is supposed to provide. That's not much of a problem for some pumps (diaphragm or liquid ring), a bit more problem for others (vane pumps)…and potentially the end of the season for others (rotary claw).

I'd just use the heat tape....cheap insurance for an expensive pump and releaser.

P.S. I like the tools in your photo hanging on the beam above. Nice look.

johnallin
02-11-2019, 05:39 PM
Thanks for the reply Dr. Perkins.

Heat tape it is for day-to-day operations. But I may still go with the cam lock set-up for those few times we really get in the freezer for a few days. I would shut down the pump for that scenario, and if the releaser is empty of all water, nothing should freeze. Should is a scary word at times......