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dennisn418
03-21-2018, 09:53 AM
Anyone use, or think of using, the 50lb kitty litter pails to collect sap? Obviously they can be cleaned and bleached so I don't really see why they couldn't be used....other than the potential strange look from your neighbors....any thoughts or experiences on non conventional collection containers??? Regardless of how "clean" you can get it, the material it was made from is not suitable for food.

motowbrowne
03-21-2018, 10:22 AM
Anyone use, or think of using, the 50lb kitty litter pails to collect sap? Obviously they can be cleaned and bleached so I don't really see why they couldn't be used....other than the potential strange look from your neighbors....any thoughts or experiences on non conventional collection containers???

Personally I'd never consider using them. About the most non-conventional bucket in my stack had dish detergent in it originally.

DrTimPerkins
03-21-2018, 11:03 AM
Buckets such as this were not originally constructed with food-grade plastic, and thus might contain different types of regrind materials (unknown origin), as well as plasticizers, colorants, etc. that are non-food-grade.

prairietapper
03-21-2018, 12:34 PM
they make real nice garbage cans. so they have that going for them :)

GraniteStateJoe
04-16-2018, 03:01 PM
I try to stick to food grade plastics. I did use a 50 32 gallon trash barrel for permeate though since I could not get another 55gal drum in time. I figured since I was not going to be consuming it, I would be ok. I do however see people hauling sap around in trash barrels as well as collecting in them so you are not the only person that sees no problem using non FG. I think about it like the old galvanized containers that everyone was and still are using with all the lead in them. They obviously thought that was fine back in the day. Who knows if there will even be such a thing as food grade plastic in the future. I try to stick to it anyway in case there really is something there.

WESTMAPLES
04-16-2018, 03:33 PM
i go to local bakerys and dunkin donut ( the one they make them at ) and get them free or for a couple bucks , usually there freshly emptied FG 5 and 2 1/2 gal frosting buckets, clean them out real good , and you have something decent to start with

upsmapleman
04-16-2018, 04:48 PM
Well you at it I bet kitty litter would work for filter aid.

maple flats
04-16-2018, 05:44 PM
Any recycled plastics are never food grade because there is no way of knowing what they may have contained or come in contact with. Use only buckets or jugs that had food in them. You have 9 months to get a supply. Check at bakeries, (even the bakery dept in a Walmart or such) for buckets. In my first year I went to a Chinese Restaurant and got all of their empty 5 gal cooking oil jugs for about 4-5 weeks. I then put a hole in the cap to run the tubing in. They took 3-4 times to clean them well, then 4 good rinses, but they worked well. And they were free.

Russell Lampron
04-16-2018, 06:55 PM
Anyone use, or think of using, the 50lb kitty litter pails to collect sap? Obviously they can be cleaned and bleached so I don't really see why they couldn't be used....other than the potential strange look from your neighbors....any thoughts or experiences on non conventional collection containers??? Regardless of how "clean" you can get it, the material it was made from is not suitable for food.

Is this a joke?


I try to stick to food grade plastics. I did use a 50 32 gallon trash barrel for permeate though since I could not get another 55gal drum in time. I figured since I was not going to be consuming it, I would be ok. I do however see people hauling sap around in trash barrels as well as collecting in them so you are not the only person that sees no problem using non FG. I think about it like the old galvanized containers that everyone was and still are using with all the lead in them. They obviously thought that was fine back in the day. Who knows if there will even be such a thing as food grade plastic in the future. I try to stick to it anyway in case there really is something there.

I have been told that the Rubbermaid "Brute" trash cans are food grade. I have never checked this out to see if it is in fact true but I have seen them used to store baking supplies in restaurants.

wnybassman
04-16-2018, 08:16 PM
I am not sure it would be the best "image" for sugar making having kitty litter buckets collecting sap seen by the public. I do, however, like those buckets and use them for numerous non-food related things.

Bucket Head
04-16-2018, 10:31 PM
Russ,

Brute makes both non-food grade and food-grade trash cans. The white ones are for food use. The bottoms should have HDPE, NSF or some printing designating the food-safe usage. Check their website- I'm sure they list which color cans can be used for food service. They make all sorts of colors but they all might not be food safe.

Steve

Bucket Head
04-16-2018, 10:38 PM
I have seen kitty litter pails used also. However, my all-time favorite was a photo a buddy of mine sent me years ago of a yard full of maples with Floor Refinisher pails on them! I couldn't believe it. These were on a major east/west route through N.Y., so thousands upon thousands of folks saw them being used.

VT_K9
04-17-2018, 08:19 PM
I tried the most simple answer of No, but it was too short. No. The food grade buckets from HD are the cheapest I would use.

Flat Lander Sugaring
04-17-2018, 08:48 PM
Omg use common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thad Blaisdell
04-17-2018, 09:30 PM
So I have two thoughts on this topic, first I believe it would be ok as long as the kitty litter was fresh scent. My second thought would be.... no wonder the FDA is all over the sugaring industry. Come on people use your head.

Maplewalnut
04-18-2018, 10:04 AM
So I have two thoughts on this topic, first I believe it would be ok as long as the kitty litter was fresh scent. My second thought would be.... no wonder the FDA is all over the sugaring industry. Come on people use your head.

yep- this post topic just got put on an FDA slide presentations to supervisors supporting the need for more field inspections

Cedar Eater
04-18-2018, 04:19 PM
If the number inside the recycle triangle on the bottom is 1, then the bucket is HDPE and there will be no recycled plastic used in the manufacture of it. However, the mold release agent used to help separate the plastic from the mold that made the bucket probably wasn't food grade. This is the main difference between NSF HDPE and ordinary HDPE. The mold release agent is an oil and while it would normally be washed quite easily from the plastic, it isn't certified safe for consumption. Use at your own risk.

Flat Lander Sugaring
04-19-2018, 05:43 AM
Where did the thread go on the Roundup and stainless tank go?

spud
04-19-2018, 07:43 AM
Anyone use, or think of using, the 50lb kitty litter pails to collect sap? Obviously they can be cleaned and bleached so I don't really see why they couldn't be used....other than the potential strange look from your neighbors....any thoughts or experiences on non conventional collection containers??? Regardless of how "clean" you can get it, the material it was made from is not suitable for food.

I say go ahead and use them without cleaning them first. Give the syrup to all your Red Sox friends. HAHA

Spud

WESTMAPLES
04-19-2018, 08:29 AM
Give the syrup to all your Red Sox friends. HAHA

Spud just because he asked a odd ? that most don`t like. keep it to the buckets..... im not a baseball fan, but i do live MA thanks bud

spud
04-19-2018, 09:36 PM
just because he asked a odd ? that most don`t like. keep it to the buckets..... im not a baseball fan, but i do live MA thanks bud

Just having some fun. Lighten up.

Spud

Sunday Rock Maple
04-19-2018, 09:57 PM
I think they're okay if you scratch a bunch of dirt, leaves and sticks over them after.

WESTMAPLES
04-20-2018, 07:42 AM
Just having some fun. Lighten up.

Spud i am having some fun moew..... so no need to lighten up my friend , as i just lost 32 lbs lol

Walling's Maple Syrup
04-20-2018, 07:20 PM
So I have two thoughts on this topic, first I believe it would be ok as long as the kitty litter was fresh scent. My second thought would be.... no wonder the FDA is all over the sugaring industry. Come on people use your head. Isn't that the kind of pails you use for your helium injection system?