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sr73087
02-16-2018, 06:23 AM
I lost my focus on my last batch last year and burned the syrup. I had never done that before and cleaned everything as best I could. There is still some black in the pan, but nothing that looks loose. Should this affect the taste?

Weekend_Warrior
02-16-2018, 06:27 AM
My experience is that there is always some black burnt sugar in my syrup. It gets filtered out and doesn't impact the taste.

NhShaun
02-16-2018, 06:33 AM
I have done the same thing a few times. It's really hard to clean off, but if it's not a gigantic spot of burnt I think it should be fine without effecting the taste. I never noticed it after scorching mine 3 different times.

asknupp
02-16-2018, 06:36 AM
Scorched my pan a couple of years ago. You need to get rid of black scorch or your syrup will always have burnt taste in syrup. I put my pan on sawhorses and let soak overnight with vinegar and water. Then with a torch heat affected area. You'll see it bubble and lift off the pan. Scrubamd scrub till you get rid of it. It works.

sr73087
02-16-2018, 11:05 AM
Thanks guys. I'll see how it works on the first batch this weekend. If I taste it, I guess ill have to try asknupp's method.

metalhead62
02-16-2018, 11:18 AM
cordless drill and a wire cup as a last resort

Haynes Forest Products
02-16-2018, 12:49 PM
NO NO Metalhead62 when you set your pans on fire and warp them like a pop can you steeped on you take it down the guy with the commercial sand blaster and he will clean that baby right up as soon as he is done with the interior of a cement mixer. Then you use a 6x6 landscape timber and use it to pound it back into shape on the cement floor and get thru the season That my man is the LAST RESORT.

The Sweet Spot
02-16-2018, 01:05 PM
About 4-5 years ago our water line froze up at 3 am. I could not believe how fast the evaporator went through 110 of permeate water that I had on hand. Even with the fire removed we burnt the front pan. The next day we were cleaning and scrubbing till our arms hurt. Their was small black dots here and there but did not effect our flavor at all.

Russell Lampron
02-16-2018, 07:19 PM
I have had to deal with the aftermath of a burnt pan and haven't had any issues with flavor because of the black stuff that I couldn't get off.

Haynes Forest Products
02-16-2018, 09:18 PM
There is a point that the burnt syrup becomes tasteless carbon. But scrape it out it's robbing you of heat. I would rather have scrape marks in the SS than crap on the bottom.

Atgreene
02-16-2018, 09:22 PM
Make a copper scraper from a piece of copper pipe flattened out on one end.

Atgreene
02-16-2018, 09:24 PM
http://mapletrader.com/community/showthread.php?30319-Scraping-syrup-pans&highlight=Copper+scraper

metalhead62
02-16-2018, 10:59 PM
ok haynes my way leaves you with a scratched up pan but maybe next to the last resort LOL NEVER TRIED YOUR WAY it dont sound good

Haynes Forest Products
02-16-2018, 11:50 PM
Were all just one closed valve away:mad: Had to replace them at the tune of $1,800.00 :o

Johnny t
02-20-2018, 04:37 PM
muriatic acid works to clean stainless too. Wear proper gloves and eye protection and in a well ventilated area. Use sparingly and rinse with copious amounts of fresh water.

RileySugarbush
02-20-2018, 08:59 PM
Muriatic is not recommended for stainless steel. It will clean it but can etch or discolor it too. Try some milkstone remover from a farm store. It has phosphoric acid and is safer for you and your stainless. Works well too.

sr73087
02-24-2018, 04:09 PM
So I scrapped them out as best I could after soaking overnight with just water and dish soap. Then used a wire wheel and drill with some white vinegar. It scratched it alittle bit, but these are $20 pans, I am not super concerned. Do you think this will be good enough and not effect the taste? I wiped it with a paper towel and still get alittle greyish color on there.

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Run Forest Run!
02-24-2018, 05:08 PM
What a shame. Those are some scorch marks!

The only way to know for sure if your syrup will have an off-taste is to boil a really small batch in one of the trays. You don't even have to take it all the way to syrup, just get it close. Taste it warm and also taste it cool. You may have to make a trip to the restaurant supply store sooner than you'd hoped. At least those of us using steam trays don't have to fork out the big bucks to replace our trays.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.

Haynes Forest Products
02-24-2018, 07:00 PM
Keep the pans and clean them and when I say clean then get radical. If you need to get yourself a cheap die grinder with the brown scotch brite pads. grind away. Look I have been working with metal for my entire adult life and the differance between dull metal and shiny metal is the size of the scratches. Take whatever means necessary to remove the carbon and at this point what does it mater if they are scratched all the heck they will cook just pfine. Now if you want them to be nice and bright get the different grades of scotch brite pads. Hit Home Depot get the cheap die grinder then hit Napa and get the screw on body shop pads and get to work.

Now if you want throw some water in the bottom of the pan and let rip you can even add some pumice Lave soap. You might have burned some of the properties out of the SS but it wont effect your syrup. I have a SS wash sink in the basement that over time looks like crap from paint grease a sorts of stuff and I can make it all nice and clean ith the pads. The art of polishing is turning large scrathes into small scratches and then small scratches into micro scratches and so on and so forth. Then yes clean with a clean non contaminated scouring pad.Yada Yada YADA.