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BSD
01-25-2017, 06:14 PM
I'm new to tubing this year and want to give 3/16 a whirl with my 5/16" drops. What should i buy? Rigid? Semi-Rigid? what's the difference, practically?

psparr
01-25-2017, 06:44 PM
Semi rigid will be easier to work with, and still be strong enough to stretch tight.

sugarwoodacres
01-25-2017, 07:25 PM
I'm new to tubing this year and want to give 3/16 a whirl with my 5/16" drops. What should i buy? Rigid? Semi-Rigid? what's the difference, practically?
I have 2500' of cdl semi rigid from Bascom, $55 per roll of 500' . pulled tight with hollow core rope .

BSD
01-26-2017, 07:36 AM
that's who i've bought from before. other than freight being a little steep, it was a great experience with them.

sugarwoodacres
01-26-2017, 07:52 AM
that's who i've bought from before. other than freight being a little steep, it was a great experience with them.
Make the 3 hour drive there. They are great .

BSD
01-26-2017, 08:10 AM
Make the 3 hour drive there. They are great .
I'd love to, but this time of the year i don't have the time to take a day road trip. too many projects squeezed in between weather-related work events. On bascom's site now, looks like the CDL semi is down to $37, i assume for 500 LF, doesn't specify on the website.

Clinkis
01-26-2017, 08:53 AM
I'd love to, but this time of the year i don't have the time to take a day road trip. too many projects squeezed in between weather-related work events. On bascom's site now, looks like the CDL semi is down to $37, i assume for 500 LF, doesn't specify on the website.

One of the advantages of the low Canadian dollar for our friends south of the border. I picked up a roll last week from my CDL dealer here in Ontario and it was $62.

sugarwoodacres
01-26-2017, 09:30 AM
Yes 3/16 is cheaper. I use 5/16. It stretches well and holds well on the fittings too.

wurmdert
01-26-2017, 05:43 PM
I have SAP STARS 15 year 3/16 flexible for 48.00 , semi flexible for 44.00, and semi rigid for 42.00. all 500 ft length.
Let me know if you need anything.

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER
01-30-2017, 12:06 PM
CDL is $ 56.75 for 1,000' rolls of 3/16.

fresh spout
01-31-2017, 08:37 PM
I'm going to piggy back Brandon for a moment only because I feel this is important to consider. CDL was one of the first to come out with the 3/16". those who have followed in recent years might look to the naked eye to possibly have a better price, but when you look closely you will see that others do not extrude as much material into their tubing. Why is this a problem? if you stretch your tubing properly and you don't have good integrity within the tubing, you will see that it will create sags as the weather warms. You don't want to be constantly working your lines to keep them tight and you don't want them necking down so much that you create a constriction area. It has been amazing to see where companies cut corners just to make their price look good. Stick with quality and you will be much happier 5 years down the road. Semi Rigid has the best balance of grip, rigidy, and flexibility. you wont be disappointed. Good Luck and have fun most of all!

hogisland42
02-01-2017, 10:20 AM
Says the Ohio cdl dealer. Lol

BAP
02-01-2017, 11:32 AM
I have used both the Leader and CDL 3/16" and have not seen enough difference in the 2 brands to say that one is better than the other. Fresh Spout, you need to read the site rules about dealers posting.

BSD
02-01-2017, 04:43 PM
well, i strung up 1000' of 3/16 CDL semi rigid this morning and it worked great, i just need to get myself a spool unwinder. managed to get through almost all of it before i got it all twisted up unrolling off my arm and had to spend 5 minutes with my ball of tubing.

5050racing
02-01-2017, 07:02 PM
The way the squirrels and dear,bears chew the 3/16 and they really didn't touch the 5/16 I know the natural vacuum thing I have it 29" of it on my 4 runs of it,just go buy the syrup!!! Just kidding I'm mad how they chewed the 3/16 and not the 5/16,I will be removing all my 3/16 at end of season instead of fixing all the chews on the side of the mountain next year!

BSD
02-01-2017, 07:25 PM
The way the squirrels and dear,bears chew the 3/16 and they really didn't touch the 5/16 I know the natural vacuum thing I have it 29" of it on my 4 runs of it,just go buy the syrup!!! Just kidding I'm mad how they chewed the 3/16 and not the 5/16,I will be removing all my 3/16 at end of season instead of fixing all the chews on the side of the mountain next year!

How are you planning on removing your 316? I have to pull 2,000-2500 LF of it at the end of my season. at this point i'm thinking of finding some small spools to wind them up on after i flush them

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5050racing
02-01-2017, 07:46 PM
My runs are like 500'-700' since I need to change the tap I'll just cut drop at the tee then just coil it bigger then the way it comes and in the warmth change the tap then reinstall the same way thru the same trees some say spray a dot on the side where it goes but I will remember my tress have some distance on some I don't think I will mess up I did a lot of these trees on buckets so I know the path,after I stretch the run then add the drop to the tee so it's not to hard to coil uncoil.im for sure going to remove then I can flush and blow out to dry for me it wil be easier then all the repairs!

BSD
02-01-2017, 07:59 PM
My runs are like 500'-700' since I need to change the tap I'll just cut drop at the tee then just coil it bigger then the way it comes and in the warmth change the tap then reinstall the same way thru the same trees some say spray a dot on the side where it goes but I will remember my tress have some distance on some I don't think I will mess up I did a lot of these trees on buckets so I know the path,after I stretch the run then add the drop to the tee so it's not to hard to coil uncoil.im for sure going to remove then I can flush and blow out to dry for me it wil be easier then all the repairs! my runs average about 350 a piece on borrowed land, so i have to mark them discreetly when i remove the lines in the spring

5050racing
02-02-2017, 04:02 AM
I won't mark I will get it right I hope! I also hade 5/16 on the same route so been thru there a lot,the 3/16 works unreal compared to the 5/16 since fire had both on same trees but I will remove n install from now on! It's so easy to run that why I will do it.

Super Sapper
02-02-2017, 05:26 AM
I mark some of the trees but what really helped this year was that I put a piece of duct tape on the line just before a turn and put an arrow to show which way to go after that tree.

Cody
02-02-2017, 07:11 AM
Have you tried to just push them up the tree farther at the end of the season.We do that and very little damage.Yesterday when went out to add more tubing seen 6 deer wondering through the woods.

5050racing
02-02-2017, 07:56 AM
At where the tubing touches the tree the squirrels get and in the middle I guess it would help with the deer but the squirrels I'm sure will still get it ? I'm not a big operation so will just be easier to remove I think but good idea on raising it!

lewichuk19
02-02-2017, 07:58 AM
First post ever, HI all!!!

Another new guy here, just looking for some info. From all the info i have been reading on here, it seems the way to go is 3/16th tubing (natural vacuum) if your bush has the right elevation drop (mine does).....MY QUESTION IS....., everyone on here says 3/16 way out performs 5/16. Is that just on gravity, or does the 3/16 actually out perform 5/16 on a vacuum system???...The guy that i have been helping with his bush the last few years thinks i should do a 5/16 vac system, but from my thinking, if a 3/16 system can get you anywhere near the sap of a 5/16 vac system, you would have to be an idiot to not do 3/16. From my number crunching, 3/16 seems to be the cheaper way to set up a bush. Plus it seems to be alot easier to setup....Thoughts?????....Thanks...Brent

p.s. A rifle should take care of any deer problem, 5050racing.....haha

BSD
02-02-2017, 08:58 AM
First post ever, HI all!!!

Another new guy here, just looking for some info. From all the info i have been reading on here, it seems the way to go is 3/16th tubing (natural vacuum) if your bush has the right elevation drop (mine does).....MY QUESTION IS....., everyone on here says 3/16 way out performs 5/16. Is that just on gravity, or does the 3/16 actually out perform 5/16 on a vacuum system???...The guy that i have been helping with his bush the last few years thinks i should do a 5/16 vac system, but from my thinking, if a 3/16 system can get you anywhere near the sap of a 5/16 vac system, you would have to be an idiot to not do 3/16. From my number crunching, 3/16 seems to be the cheaper way to set up a bush. Plus it seems to be alot easier to setup....Thoughts?????....Thanks...Brent

p.s. A rifle should take care of any deer problem, 5050racing.....hahaI'm still new to this as the fresh morning snow, but yes. 3/16 should be much cheaper to install and zero running costs of vac releasers, pumps, etc if you have the right terrain to work with. You can get away with less elevation drop if you use a $100 diaphram pump that can run on a battery and solar charger too.

minehart gap
05-15-2017, 04:50 PM
Are there better times of the year to buy for price or is it the same year around?

BAP
05-15-2017, 05:36 PM
Right now, most companies and dealers are running sales.