Organic co-packing / private labeling

[PerryFamily]

I'm currently inching forward with the organic certification process.

Currently I purchase sap from 2 farms. What they want as payment is finished syrup in plain containers so that they in turn label as their own and sell or give away to customers and what not.

Anyone know how this would hurt me in obtaining certification?

If I was to obtain certification, I can sell my syrup as organic, what would the two farms be able to sell it as?
Once their names on it do they become the "producer" and need a certification too? Or would mine cover them? Currently I am bottling it as well but I have made arrangements with a small local bulk producer to do the canning at a much larger scale, would they also need a certification, which I know they sell lots of organic syrup?

I guess I'm really curious how to label the product correctly and legally as this is I think going to be the way the majority of my syrup is sold.

Thanks in advance

[Maple Hill]

The best thing to do would be to ask whoever your organic certifier is so you get it right the first time.

[maple maniac65]

All orchards you get sap from will have to be certified organic including where you process the syrup and bottle it. I do not know what happens when you trade it for other services.

[DaveB]

All orchards you get sap from will have to be certified organic including where you process the syrup and bottle it. I do not know what happens when you trade it for other services.

I'm not certified organic but I would agree that any payment should be outside of the certification. I would think that certification is about production, not how it goes back to the supplier.

[unc23win]

Everyone who brings you sap would have to be certified organic for your syrup to be organic unless you were able to process it completely seperate. You can either make an agreement where you lease the property and certify it or the owner can get certified themselves.

There is a seperate section for anything another party does for you such as if you had someone make cream or candy for you and I'm sure the packaging part would be in there basically they would have certify they are not adding anything that wasn't organic and that they are capable of keeping non organic syrup seperate from organic syrup.

It might vary some depending on the certification agency.