How cold in Maple Country? [Archive]

royalmaple

03-06-2007, 07:58 AM

We got some serious global warming up here.

It got down to 0.3 this morning for a low, and they are saying wind chill is -20 to -30 all day today. Gusting winds over 35mph.

I think after this spell of global warming we are going to have to redrill all my taps since they will be full of bacteria.

Flood gates are gonna open after this weekend.

Dave Y

03-06-2007, 08:14 AM

It is a balmy -1 this am out on the edge of the Allegany Plateau. In the great Northwest of Pennsylvania.

tapper

03-06-2007, 08:16 AM

-4 at 8:00 am here in the northwest mountains of PA.

Fred Henderson

03-06-2007, 08:18 AM

Minus 12 here along the Canadian border.

sugarin4fun

03-06-2007, 08:24 AM

I had 7 degrees at 6:00am in Cranesville PA.

PFHII

03-06-2007, 08:35 AM

It was -12 this morning. No higher then -5/5 above today. Yippeeeee

hookhill

03-06-2007, 08:46 AM

-15 F here in Washington, Vt. Winds 30+. Brrrr. Looks like tapping weather in the middle of next week.

HanginAround

03-06-2007, 10:29 AM

Eeeek, 6 F overnight, high today of 7 F (-14C).

Man, gonna be bitter here until Saturday.

mcsap

03-06-2007, 10:34 AM

Was -10 on my porch in Worthington, Mass this morning.

maplwrks

03-06-2007, 12:04 PM

Colder than a mother-in-laws' kiss this morning

Jim Brown

03-06-2007, 12:45 PM

More global warming here today 0' on by porch this morning at 5:00am
in NW Pa.

OGDENS SUGAR BUSH

03-06-2007, 04:06 PM

0 degrees at 6:00 am this morning no warm weather here untill saturday
Rich

capac Michigan

TapME

03-06-2007, 05:48 PM

8 below this morn on the hill and very windy, -18 in the village in the valley

Russell Lampron

03-06-2007, 07:05 PM

It was -5 this morning with a mid afternoon high of 3 degrees here today. So far none of the buckets have blown off of the trees.

Russ

3% Solution

03-06-2007, 07:21 PM

I had 4 buckets off out of 30 tonight, got to do the bucket patrol tomorrow and check the other 50.
Hey they just said on the tube that global warming is going to cause a 7 degree increase in 10 years.
Now, I don't want to sound like I'm not into the environment but I'll take that 7 degrees right now!!
Right now it's 0.9 degrees.
Looks like a small run Saturday and even better Sunday and Monday, possibly Tuesday, but temps are going to drop a bit.
At this point I'll take 30 degrees.
Keep warm everyone!!
Dave

oneoldsap

03-06-2007, 08:36 PM

Weather man says -15 to -25 in Lincoln VT . It may take the trees a few days to thaw out. I think this snow cover may come in handy if it warms up for a few days, keep the ground insulated from the sun. Anybody got any thoughts on this. I knew an old guy that used to keep imaculate records of the weather from season to season and then look back for similar weather patterns and see what they made for syrup that year. I wish I kept records but I guess I just haven't found the time. The old timers were pretty attuned to their enviornment Because most of them were farmers and maple was a cash crop. So keeping an eye on the weather was a prudent thing to do, If you record the weather long enough, patterns will develope which might or might not help to predict the weather. Just the musings of an old sap

latewood

03-06-2007, 09:14 PM

Got down to -1 degree here last night in Western New York

mcmp

03-06-2007, 10:28 PM

14 below right now and NOAA says its going to 32 below. Tapping is only a distant dream..........Maybe July ??????

Paul

Pete33Vt

03-07-2007, 04:42 AM

Currently we have -18 at 4:40 am. Yesterday was just plain clod with lots of wind. No wind at the moment. Looks like a few more shop days ahead.

Fred Henderson

03-07-2007, 06:11 AM

- 25 at 0609 hours. - 33 at Saranac Lake NY. I don't think that I will tap today.

maple flats

03-07-2007, 06:13 AM

I had -3F yesterday, didn't look at sugarhouse temp. Air was in a HURRY to get someplace. This morn -4F now. Does look like Sat on will be good for sap flow. Keep warm!
Dave

oneoldsap

03-07-2007, 06:46 AM

-14 at the house this morning. I guess the weatherman was pretty close, it's usually 10 degrees colder up at the bush in Lincoln. Still going to tap this weekend I got a feeling that when it warms up it may go overboard. This weather is a lot like 01 except theres only half the snow. Watch out for frostbite today.

3% Solution

03-07-2007, 07:08 AM

-15 right now, had a low of -17 no doubt around sunrise.
Here I am planted, in the house for a while.
Got to do the bucket patrol later.
At least the wind isn't blowing.
This weekend does look good for here too!
Stay warm everyone and I'll drop back later!

Dave

Fred Henderson

03-07-2007, 07:24 AM

Jim Brown

03-07-2007, 07:34 AM

Weather warmed up in NW pa this morning to 11degrees but we got 4-5 inches of new SNOW.

royalmaple

03-07-2007, 07:43 AM

-15.4 this morning at 6:22, now it is -8. That's air temp. Must be not as much global warming last night, maybe they had some coal mines shut down to the west of us?

mountainvan

03-07-2007, 09:09 AM

I feel nice and warm now. Was -1 at 6am, now, 9am, it's up to 13!!! Weekend does'nt look like much sap, 30's and rain. Fred, how thick is the ice up your way?

Fred Henderson

03-07-2007, 09:27 AM

MV, A friend that ice fishes on the St Lawrence near Waddington said that it was about 1 1/2 feet.

If any of you guys are feeling poorly because its so cold . Well just put a lighted match under the bulb and when it reads 55 you will feel much better.

HanginAround

03-07-2007, 09:51 AM

Sure glad I don't live where some of you guys do, sheeesh.

Currently -2 F, overnight low was -7 F..... balmy :)

Looks good for the weekend, Sunday supposed to be 10C (50F).

PFHII

03-07-2007, 10:28 AM

Did anyone else here a rumor of 4 days of 40 degrees? Sat Sun Mon Tue
Now the real fun begins!

mountainvan

03-07-2007, 10:49 AM

Yep, but I've seen that on the "long range" forcast since Jan.!!! It is supposed to warm up next week and I'll actually have syrup for the nysmpa maple weekend.

Russell Lampron

03-07-2007, 12:58 PM

-6 at my house this morning, 14 degrees now. Looks like sugaring temps this weekend into next week.

Russ

3% Solution

03-07-2007, 03:27 PM

Just got back from my "Bucket Patrol", 12 out of 80 buckets off the hook, not bad for the wind we have been experiencing.
Got to love the land owners, they pick my stuff up and put in a safe place ( I think the reason is the syrup!).
15 above here with a 5-7 mph wind, still **** cold!
Forecast from the National Weather Service, Gray, Maine is; Sat. 37, Sun. 51, Mon. 50, Tues. 50, this is for here, however, in their discussions it leans more towards mid to upper 40's.
Ok, so here we go, no one in southern and central NH & Vt. will be on this site for at least 4 days!
Now that's a good thing!
Keeping warm.

Dave

tapper

03-07-2007, 04:02 PM

I just came in from bucket patrol myself. 0 out of 80 buckets w/5/16 health spouts on the ground. One of my early buckets and spile has been on the ground for a few weeks. That tree never gave a drop during the warm last week. I figured it dried up but now today sunny and temp holding at 20 all day its dripping. Must br the cold frozen spile keeps them from dripping?

maple flats

03-07-2007, 08:59 PM

I checked my min-max indicating thermometer at the sugarhouse today, either today or yesterday (or both) I had -9 at the sugarhouse. I reset it, will look again tomorrow but I think it might not be quite that cold.
Dave

mcmp

03-07-2007, 09:06 PM

NOAA is showing 35 below for Saranac Lake tomorrow night so we will track close to that. No tapping tomorrow LOL

Paul

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER

03-07-2007, 09:34 PM

Close to 50 here today and lots of sun. 20 tonight, 46 tommorrow and lots of sun, 22 tommorrow night and 50+ Friday.

Sorry but soon you will be in the same boat.

brookledge

03-07-2007, 09:59 PM

Brandon
Go get um with those temps!!!
Keith

wdchuck

03-08-2007, 06:11 AM

Pretty cold here in N. Central Vt too! No big surprise there........Walking home from town meeting on Tuesday it was 5 below, about as cold as it got all day. A bit warmer yesterday, but that was about it. It's gonna take at least 2 days at 45 to just thaw the trees out- time to tap! I hope my brother found his snowshoes!

Jim Brown

03-08-2007, 06:35 AM

More global warming issues in NW PA this morning 0' here this morning. Looking for a warm up this weekend an next week. Hope it comes soon have wholesale cust. out of syrup!

3% Solution

03-08-2007, 06:42 AM

Good chilly morning all,
**** this is cold -11 this morning at 5:30
Can't wait for the global warming tomorrow ........ 24
Well off to work today in Concord.

Dave

oneoldsap

03-08-2007, 08:06 AM

Wow 8 degrees above zero this morning. I was thinking about blowing off work today and going to the beach, but then it started snowing, guess I'll wait acouple days. Right back in the deep freeze tonight though. If tke long range is anywhere near right we may be very busy next week. Bring it on, looks like it may not freeze Tues. night, then the weather gets right again. Time will tell, have a good day all !

Revi

03-08-2007, 08:18 AM

9 below here last night. We have a 50 gallon ice cube in the tank from last week's run. I hope it defrosts some time soon. It'll keep the rest of the sap cool for quite a while, I suppose. Maybe we'll get a run this weekend. The trees were ready to go. We'll see what happens. It's the beginning of the season still. Long range forecasts say the temps are warming up next week.

Fred Henderson

03-08-2007, 09:35 AM

This AM at 0600 hours it was a + 7. Tonight its going down to - 25 again.

HanginAround

03-08-2007, 10:12 AM

High of 8 F yesterday, low of -6 last night. Brrrrr.

Supposed to be milder Friday, above freezing starting Saturday.

HanginAround

03-09-2007, 12:06 AM

We set records yesterday and today for lowest daytime high for the date, about 7 F (-14C) both days. Judging by alot of the other temps posted, probably set records in a lot of places.

Pete33Vt

03-09-2007, 04:36 AM

Well its -16 here this morning and I don't trust the themometer so its probably colder. Old F-250 gonna complain this morning. But good news is supposed to warm up from here on out. Tapps going in this weekend.

Fred Henderson

03-09-2007, 05:51 AM

0500 hours -20

oneoldsap

03-09-2007, 06:27 AM

Good Morning all! Plenty cold at your place this morning Fred. The thermomrteron my back porch says -10. So that makes it about -20 up at the bush. Our sugarhouse is 1760 Ft. above sea level and 1200 Ft. higher than my house. Does anyone out there have one that is higher? Most of our taps are higher than the sugarhouse. Thats why we're 10 degrees colder than Burlington on average. Now it's going to warm up, we should have some sap next week!

Russell Lampron

03-09-2007, 06:42 AM

-7 yesterday am and -4 today. It is hard to believe that it will be close to 50 this weekend.

Russ

oneoldsap

03-09-2007, 07:07 AM

Thats a big 10-4 Russ it is sometimes hard to beleive how radical mother nature can be. Potentially 70 degree temp swing in two days, I'm glad I'm not a wild animal and living right out in it. Have a good one!

mountainvan

03-09-2007, 07:08 AM

-5 this morning here in Oliverea, NY, elevation 1,500'.

3% Solution

03-09-2007, 07:13 AM

Hi All,
GD cold, -11 here in New Town.
Hey OOS I think about that all the time watching the tree rats and birds at the feeders, wouldn't want to be them!!!
But they're made to be there.
I still would rather be like the cat, never go out, always warm!
Yup so the next ZAP to the ole system is coming this weekend up in the upper 40's.
I looked at the NWS forecast this morning and they have backed the temps down a bit from previous forecasts ...... in the 40's rather than the 50's.
Stay warm, the flood gates will open soon!!

Dave

mcmp

03-09-2007, 11:10 AM

27 below this morning. This is more like winters we are used to. In the past 15 years or so, we have not seen the sustained sub zero temp or snow depth. I remember in the past that 25-35 below was expected, the coldest I have seen here was 48 below. Its been sub zero almost every night since the end of january........Will Sugar Maples grow in Hawaii LOL

Paul

SapSuckers

03-09-2007, 02:43 PM

-16 at 7am without the windchill. Still probably 2ft of snow in woods. Plan on tapping sunday, it is suppose to be in the mid 40's. We have the snowshoes ready to go.

chris

maple flats

03-09-2007, 07:27 PM

-12 this AM at sugarhouse. Up to 17 this afternoon. Tomorrow should get to mid 40's, tap tomorrow! Next week looks like we may have overnite lows above freezing, then we will want just a touch of this cold back during overnite only.Crazy weather, but I don't buy global warming. When it takes thousands of years to swing you can not judge a 20 or 30 year temp swing of 1 degree and claim anything valid.

Fred Henderson

03-09-2007, 08:19 PM

Around here we have a crust on top and under that it is nothing but pure ice crystals. I was breaking trails with my tractor and it right up to the under side of the front axle.

oneoldsap

03-09-2007, 08:54 PM

Well we've decided to start tapping tomorow. This weather is weird you really don't have a clue what it's going to do. If we put the spouts in the trees this weekend they'll be good till the 3rd week in April. Never seen sugaring last that long here. The weather forecast looks good but in the past few years we haven't gotten the highs they predicted. It's still early here. Last year we tapped on the 11th 12th &13th of march and we didn't make any syrup for about a week. But there is that sence of relief after your done tapping. You know that in 4 or 5 weeks tou will be done. Good luck everyone!

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER

03-09-2007, 10:16 PM

19 Wed night, high Thurs 50's with all sun. 19 Thurs night high today 50's with all sun. That translates into close to 4000 gallon of sap in 2.5 weeks!

Not rubbing it in, it is heading north as we speak and I wish the same for all of you.

andrew martin

03-09-2007, 11:29 PM

Let's see, I wore shorts and a T-shirt to work today - working on a custom in Lexington, KY. I may have even started to get my yearly dose of a farmer's tan. It was 69 on Wednesday, 66 on THursday and 67 today. I guess I pulled my taps just in time. The silver maples are starting to bud here, and I could say the robins showed up, but they are here year round.

Andrew

HanginAround

03-10-2007, 12:29 AM

Wow, seems KY and WV are a world away, hard to believe how much difference a couple hundred miles makes.

3% Solution

03-10-2007, 07:31 AM

Good morning,
I woke up to a heat wave this morning, it was a balmy 10 above.
**** these heat wave are something, I guess it's going to be shorts and t-shirt today for me too (yeah inside!).
Andy; we had sitings of Robins right up to the cold weather this winter, but I haven't seen one since the Artic area relocated in January!
You have a good day and enjoy your weather, don't send it here right of, hold on to it.
Will the sap run today, that is the question!
Everyone have a great day.

Dave

oneoldsap

04-01-2007, 02:06 AM

The weather is perfect for making syrup, we had another good run today. Better than a Gal. per tap for third day in a row and tomorow looks like another. I love this time of year. We're a little behind last year but if this weather continues we should catch up soon enough. Ain't this fun?

maple flats

04-01-2007, 05:38 AM

Yea, it's great. As soon as the rest of the world wakes up I will go collect yesterday's run. I don't go too early and wake up the folks who let me tap their trees, especially on Sunday morning.

BrooklinPaul

04-01-2007, 09:10 AM

today there will be next to nothing for me. It has not gone below freezing for the past couple of nights. Last year I had a hard time keeping up with the sap but not this year. Yesterday 3 gallons from 51 taps.

Have a great boiling day for those of you who have sap!

pennslytucky

04-04-2007, 05:13 PM

supposed to be in the 20's every night thru sunday. how much freeze can the daffodils and tulips take? all my raspberrys and blueberries and grapes have open buds, and the strawberries are takin off... what should i do about that? cover it all every night?

maple flats

04-04-2007, 07:36 PM

Strawberries will suffer if it drops to about 29, if you can't cover them put a sprinkler out to keep them wet, ice will form and you must maintain sprinkling til it all melts. This will protect about 5 extra degrees. Another way is to cover them to hold the frost off, row covers, old sheets whatever, or re mulch with straw but you must remove it as soon as the sun starts to get warm on them. As for the blueberries, they are higher off the ground and are safe down to about 25-26 degrees, a sprinkler also protects them. When sprinkling use an impact sprinkler head with a 9/64 nozzle and at least 60 psi water pressure. If you have a lot put a sprinkler every 60' in every direction. If you need irrigation pipe or impact heads I have about 4 acres worth for sale, I used to grow strawberries. My blueberries are late enough that I have little or no problem with frost and no longer use these.
Dave

maple flats

04-04-2007, 07:38 PM

Oh, and strawberries are most suseptable to frost damage just before they open.

pennslytucky

04-05-2007, 09:14 AM

thanks, i covered the blackberries, blueberries, and strawberries last night. i dont have alot so it wasnt a big deal. the blueberries are actually "saskatoon blueberries". and they were just put in last year so they are just 2 foot tall trees. they are grown way up in canuckia so i think they should be ok. some of her tulips that werent covered dont look so well....

ive never heard of the water trick. thats pretty neat.

mountainvan

04-07-2007, 07:46 AM

16 degrees in the Catskills for April 7, high of 30 today.

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER

04-07-2007, 08:07 AM

About the same here and I am 800 to 1000 miles straight south of you. Wish we had some of this and the snow about 3 weeks ago.

tapper

04-07-2007, 11:08 AM

Low of 16 degrees high of 20 4 days in a row in the mountains above the Kinzua Reservoir. Nothing forcast above freezing for another 2 or 3 days.

Fred Henderson

04-07-2007, 11:59 AM

A cool + 20 here this AM. Going to a high of 33 today. This break was not wanted but needed. I had to replace the 400 foot water line to the sugarhouse. The old one was seasonal and a stone had put a hole in it. The new one is now inside 4" pvc. When doing the backhoe work there was still frost about 24" down. Under the areas that are plowed clear of snow the line is down 7 1/2' otherwise the average is 5 1/2'. As I type this the water heater is warming up in the SH so I can clean my syrup pan this PM.

ibby458

04-08-2007, 07:22 AM

I hope we NEVER get the kind of cold it would take to freeze the new one!

oneoldsap

04-08-2007, 09:54 AM

We have the same thing going on here in Lincoln,VT. Looks like it might start running again Tue. or Wed. We're kind of hopeing the syrup will lighten up, we have made way too much dark syrup and no where near enough light, out of 585Gal. 500 is dark amber or B. I don't think warm January's are conducive to good sugaring, (any thoughts anybody) I guess we'll see next week how things pan out. We chased out the rig and every thing is clean. I don't mind a two part season as long as the second part is better!

Homestead Maple

04-08-2007, 10:20 AM

I believe from what I've seen of the past 5 years that extended warm periods during what is normally winter season, does affect the trees for sure. To much dark syrup at times. The trees need to freeze up the beginning of December and for the most part stay that way until the end of February, at least for around this area any way. A little break in the action during the sugaring season is welcomed especially a cold one to help bring the syrup grade to lighter syrup. Last year a cold spell and some snow, (over 8" the 4th of April, same as this year) gave me another 10 days of boiling to where the season for us ended April 16th. I'd go along with April 20th being my last day this year, so long as the syrup is good!!

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER

04-08-2007, 11:00 AM

Seems to me the sugar content is lower too with the milder winters and extended warm spells. The colder and the longer it stays that way, the better the sugar content seems to be at least for me.

mcmp

04-08-2007, 11:19 AM

8 degrees on Easter Morning in the Adirondack Mts. Now at 11am its only 12. The only Sap running is ME ! Will I ever see grass again ?

Paul

mountainvan

04-11-2007, 07:36 AM

19 in The Catskills this morning, high in the 40's. Sap? Supposed to get snow tonight.

oneoldsap

04-13-2007, 09:18 AM

Our sugar content is hanging on pretty good, 1.9 yesterday and making Fancy syrup. taps have been in since 12 March we are going to keep going for a while. Still plenty of snow on the ground and the weather forecast looks good. we probably won't another freeze up so next time it warms up we'll be coming to the end, another week would be nice.