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meadster02
02-16-2016, 06:59 PM
Just ordered all the parts to put together a gear pump cream machine. will post some pics once i get everything and get started.
meadster02
02-26-2016, 08:35 PM
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Here is the new cream machine i put together tonight can't wait to test it out.
MunsterMapler
02-28-2016, 08:28 PM
That's awesome! Do you have a parts list with prices? Was interested in making one myself
meadster02
02-28-2016, 09:18 PM
The cream machine worked perfectly tonight. Made 8 lbs of cream in one batch and I'm sure i could do double that next time.
The motor is a half horse 3450 rpm free
40:1 gear reduction off an old garage door opener free
3/4 oberdorfer gear pump ebay $80
the funnel came from moonshine distiller.com $89.00
lovejoy connection from gear reduction to gear pump ebay $19.00
then the assortment of stainless fittings tri clamp connection and 3 way valve came from brewershardware.com $113.00
MunsterMapler
02-28-2016, 09:32 PM
Very nice! Thanks for posting!
meadster02
02-29-2016, 07:03 AM
I thought I might need a 3/4 or 1 hp motor but the 1/2hp seemed to work just fine.
West Sumner Sugar
02-29-2016, 07:27 AM
Very nice job for sure.
Any chance you have a more detailed parts list?
meadster02
02-29-2016, 07:51 AM
1- 2'' tri clamp and silicone gasket
1- 2'' tri clamp to 3/4'' male thread
1- 3/4'' street elbow
2- 6'' pipe nipple
1- 18'' pipe nipple
1-3/4'' cam lock fittings
1-3/4'' elbow
1-3/4'' 3 way ball valve
the love joy connection will be whatever the size shaft on your gear reduction and the gear pump.
West Sumner Sugar
02-29-2016, 09:16 AM
Excellent thank you. Any idea what model number pump that is?
meadster02
02-29-2016, 09:25 AM
oberdorfer 4000 series
WoodButcher
03-05-2016, 12:52 PM
Meadster, thanks for posting this. i will be making my own here next weekend. i ordered in all the parts, almost identical to yours. ill make a new post with all the parts listed as well.
sluggish
03-05-2016, 04:03 PM
Showing my newbie-ness here. What the heck is maple cream and how do you make it. Obviously with a motor and a funnel but more detail please. ;) It sounds like something I want to eat.
WoodButcher
03-05-2016, 04:13 PM
check out youtube... ton a videos on there.
plus go to the forum main page and look under candy and cream. bunch of neat info on how to start making it yourself.
http://mapletrader.com/community/forumdisplay.php?20-Maple-Candy-Cream-and-Everything-Else-Made-With-Maple&sort=views&order=desc
Foremaple
03-05-2016, 08:51 PM
Nice build. I had thought of building one but the ones available use a 1" pump which are a little more expensive. If you are making it work with a 3/4" pump with no problems, I may venture to build one.
meadster02
03-05-2016, 08:54 PM
So far it has worked perfectly. Got a batch ready to go for tomorrow, so we will see how it goes.
Wow one of those in lapierre is like $2500
This is the pump I ordered. It has stainless gears. Not brass gears like the oberdorfer. The added bonus was that it did not say out of stock when I ordered mine and they sent me a 1" with 3/4" bushings.
meadster02
03-06-2016, 01:40 PM
Just finished the second batch worked perfectly again.
West Sumner Sugar
03-10-2016, 09:32 PM
This is the pump I ordered. It has stainless gears. Not brass gears like the oberdorfer. The added bonus was that it did not say out of stock when I ordered mine and they sent me a 1" with 3/4" bushings.
What pump did you get? I don't see a picture or a link.
Whoops! Here is a link. Shows it out of stock. I know there were other vendors when I bought mine.
https://www.pricefalls.com/product/Bur-Cam-Pumps-700721-.75-in.-General-Utility/2713335
http://www.walmart.com/ip/25524011?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222228017921499&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=52339412895&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=79436695335&veh=sem
http://www.amazon.com/Bur-Cam-Pumps-700721-General-Utility/dp/B0052SVKDQ
Amber Gold
03-21-2016, 12:06 PM
4 seasons ago, I took the gear pump/motor off my filter press and had the idea of using it for a gear pump cream machine. It's been under my work bench since. I was cleaning out the sugarhouse before the season started, asked myself why it was still kicking around, and took it to the dump. I saw this thread, and remembered why I'd kept it...
So, I make cream with a candy machine, but have been unhappy with it. It's hard to get consistent batches from start to finish. It's also an old candy machine with the wooden frame and such. I'm going to have a s/s frame made up for it this summer, and recently I had an epiphany as I was making a batch of cream...why not have the candy machine be convertible to a gear pump cream machine. What do you think? The gear pump machine's come with a 1/2hp motor. Is a 40:1 reducer typical? The candy machine's, what size motor do they have? The tag on the motor's worn off, so I can't read it. I think it has a 60:1 reducer. Pull the pig mount off and mount the gear pump/hopper in it's place. I think the benefit would be to have another machine kicking around the sugarhouse, and maybe save a few bucks on a motor/reducer/stand build.
4 seasons ago, I took the gear pump/motor off my filter press and had the idea of using it for a gear pump cream machine. It's been under my work bench since. I was cleaning out the sugarhouse before the season started, asked myself why it was still kicking around, and took it to the dump. I saw this thread, and remembered why I'd kept it...
So, I make cream with a candy machine, but have been unhappy with it. It's hard to get consistent batches from start to finish. It's also an old candy machine with the wooden frame and such. I'm going to have a s/s frame made up for it this summer, and recently I had an epiphany as I was making a batch of cream...why not have the candy machine be convertible to a gear pump cream machine. What do you think? The gear pump machine's come with a 1/2hp motor. Is a 40:1 reducer typical? The candy machine's, what size motor do they have? The tag on the motor's worn off, so I can't read it. I think it has a 60:1 reducer. Pull the pig mount off and mount the gear pump/hopper in it's place. I think the benefit would be to have another machine kicking around the sugarhouse, and maybe save a few bucks on a motor/reducer/stand build.
Your candy machine sounds like mine. I believe the reduced motor speed is 60 rpm. When I built my gear pump machine I found it to be too slow. It did not work great for making cream and with the slow speed it would not pump water around to clean. I ended up using my old filter press motor and used a jack shaft to get the speed right.
Sunny Knoll Farm
04-02-2016, 11:51 PM
Very nice. In the process of researching this idea I found a 1/2: stainless steel pump on Craigslist and bought for $ 75. I also have a SS 15:1 reduction gear. Any opinions on running this 1/2" pump, 1750 rpm motor reduced 15:1 ? Would end up with about 114 rpm.
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