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cjf12
01-23-2016, 06:03 PM
I am going to be pumping out of a sinkhole and need to pump up about 100' maybe a little more. What type of pump would you use? I could drag a 2500 watt generator out but thinking gas would be simpler. I could go either way depending on cost.

psparr
01-23-2016, 06:07 PM
Honda wx10!!

blissville maples
01-23-2016, 06:22 PM
i used a 5.5 horse red lion(not recommended get a Honda, runs but all kinds of issues) from tractor supply, dropped down to one inch from 2 inch output. would pump sap 200 feet distance, up probably 30-40' would do it at an idle no problem, i would say wide open would pump up that far, maybe??

PA TAPPER
01-23-2016, 08:47 PM
I second, Honda WX10 .

West Mountain Maple
01-23-2016, 08:52 PM
those small 1" gas pumps are great, i got one a few years back with a mitsubishi motor, its been great. i'm also a honda fan, but here is a more affordable solution to the honda http://www.waterpumpsdirect.com/Earthquake-WP4310-Water-Pump/p3175.html but i see the head rating is only 56 ft, the honda is 121

Windy Acres
01-24-2016, 04:51 AM
we have been using the harbor freight 1" gas pump, it has been flawless, we are picking up another one this year, we are in the same situation, i need to pump all my sap up from a woods tank to a 550 gallon bulk tank, approx. 50 foot rise, 700 feet long, we strung up 1" mainline on hi-tensile, i have no doubt the little pump will do it, and you cant beat the price

brookledge
01-24-2016, 06:53 PM
Not sure what amount you need to pump. But I have a Honda WX15 and love it. Certainly better than the two stroke Tanaka that I have
Uses a fraction of the fuel that a two stroke uses.
Either way honda pumps are great
Keith

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER
01-24-2016, 06:54 PM
Not sure what amount you need to pump. But I have a Honda WX15 and love it. Certainly better than the two stroke Tanaka that I have
Uses a fraction of the fuel that a two stroke uses.
Either way honda pumps are great
Keith

I have same pump as Keith and it is tremendous. It is 4 cycle and moves the sap extremely fast and it is much quieter than 2 cycle pumps.

cjf12
01-24-2016, 07:04 PM
Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Saw a wx20. Not as portable, but $50 cheaper than the 15. May go that route.

mudr
01-24-2016, 07:25 PM
those small 1" gas pumps are great, i got one a few years back with a mitsubishi motor, its been great. i'm also a honda fan, but here is a more affordable solution to the honda http://www.waterpumpsdirect.com/Earthquake-WP4310-Water-Pump/p3175.html but i see the head rating is only 56 ft, the honda is 121
West mountain hits on a good point, ft of head the pump is rated at. I looked at a bunch of 1 inch pumps online, they all seemed to put out similar flow rates, around 30 gpm or so. But most, if not all,had significantly lower head ratings. That comes in to play if you have a hill involved, it starts to lose flow quickly and poops out at a lower elevation. I ran the numbers. It seems like the 2 - strokes have noticeably lower head ratings.

This, plus the weight, honda reliability, and supposid ease of starting are why I narrowed down to this model. My wife will be using it, so it needs to be light and easy to start. Got mine on ebay yesterday actually. Used, but plan on giving it a thorough cleaning. If I went new, I may have looked into the wx15. Like $30 more, 5 more lbs, much nicer numbers.

CampHamp
01-24-2016, 11:40 PM
"The Honda WX10 pump is designed to pump only water that is not intended for human consumption" - first words in Safety section from the product manual. (http://cdn.powerequipment.honda.com/pe/pdf/manuals/00X31YE96120.pdf) Not sure what the offending material is, but I expect Honda would pay for food-safe certification if the materials were all clean.

mudr
01-25-2016, 01:31 AM
I seem to recall a thread here (or sbi) that people went back and forth on various pumps. As I recall, there is no food approve, portable, transfer pump capable of dealing with the volumes we need to push. Someone alluded to the point that there are a number out there that would likely pass fda approval but don't go through the hassle as it coats money and there isn't enough extra money to be made by doing so. There just isn't demand enough. It comes down to best professional judgement I think. The wx10 is all aluminum in the pump housing, which is completely separate from the engine. If you keep the housing clean you should be safe.

CampHamp
01-26-2016, 05:53 PM
I see what you're saying. Google comes up empty for NSF certified, high-flow pumps except for only high-end equipment. The only cost-effective solution that provides food-grade certification, high-pressure and flow rates that I could dream up would be to drive a deep well pump with a generator.

A pump like this one (http://www.amazon.com/SMTHouse-Water-200ft-33GPM-Control/dp/B012IEM4M2/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1453847814&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=water+pump+gas&psc=1) on Amazon for $160 and lay it on its side.

MunsterMapler
02-02-2016, 06:05 PM
Anybody using this pump? Seems to be halfway decently priced and has a Honda 4 stroke http://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pumps-well-tanks/pumps/1-hp-honda-engine-powermate-water-pump/p-1444431297349-c-8673.htm?tid=-836096082207259465