View Full Version : Hats off to you guys up north!
madmapler
03-05-2015, 09:35 AM
I've been fighting my way through 3+ feet of snow for quite a while running lines and now tapping. Some days are better on snowshoes and some days I'm better off trudging through it but compared to what I'm accustomed to around here (So. Vt.) every day STINKS! I'm in darn good shape for my age and I generally accept hard work as a challenge that needs to be overcome but this morning I headed out and there's just no way I can get any work done. There's just enough crust that I can't trudge through it and the snow is too deep to lift my snowshoes high enough to get above it(the crust). I have heard how this kind of thing is common for you guys up north and thinking about it has helped me to keep going. I'm running some pretty steep, ledgy slopes but I imagine that's what a lot of you guys deal with also. I read about how some of you get 500 or more taps in a day and its embarrassing to say that I can't even get 300 taps a day in. What's the secret. Is there a special pill or something I can take? Regardless, you have my respect.
Sugarmaker
03-05-2015, 09:49 AM
Sounds to me like 300 a day in those conditions is very good, and a lot of work. I applaud your efforts to make syrup.
I haven't even drilled hole number 1 yet:) But starting Sat it looks like its going to break. I need to get out and do some work in my roadside sugarbush too.
Regards,
Chris
GeneralStark
03-05-2015, 09:50 AM
I too have been setting up a new section of tubing, re-installing/rebuilding laterals in an area we had logged, and now tapping in deep snow on snowshoes. We have some steep ledgy slopes as well and in those areas I put in a switch backing trail to the top without carrying anything. Then I run lines or tap going downhill and use the switchbacks to get back up. I find it worth the time to pack out an access trail before starting the work. Now I have trails in to all sections of the woods so I can move quick and efficiently when carrying tools and supplies.
The other key is your snowshoes. In crust, it is key to keep the tips up and some binding styles don't work as well as others. MSR makes an awesome mountaineering snowshoe with detachable tails that does real well in all conditions. Also, in crust, it becomes even more critical to break out a trail.
I know many swear by ATVs with tracks for deep snow, but I am a snowshoe guy. But, I also spend my summers biking and hiking, and my winters skiing and mountaineering, so I am pretty fit.
DoubleBrookMaple
03-05-2015, 10:10 AM
Sean... You and I have similar weather and seasons from my memory.
I feel your pain.
Check this fool out...
We live it the Green Mountain state, and that covers much of the south as well. I live on Dutch Hill, adjacent to a closed ski area! I only have 3 acres, but it is the toughest anybody could imagine. A 12% slope, with 1 stream and 3 swales to cross. My first year it was all on buckets! No snowshoes! It cost me a hernia operation in May of that year, and the other side 6 months later. The pain became quite strong hauling buckets around that year.
Still the fool, but on good snowshoes with extensions the first pass, I have just run 3500' of laterals, and begin putting in my drops and tapping today, but just 200 or so taps. So much for retirement!
DoubleBrookMaple
03-05-2015, 10:21 AM
MSR makes an awesome mountaineering snowshoe with detachable tails that does real well in all conditions.
Last year I invested in MSR's, and used the tails/extentions for the first time, trail blazing this year. They also have rear lifts for steep hills. I only weigh 165, but fully outfitted we increase that weight a lot! You need proper size snowshoes for this.
madmapler
03-05-2015, 02:52 PM
I just looked at some MSRs on ebay and certain ones have a pretty good (ramp?) in the front. I can definitely see how they could help. I currently have 4 pairs for different conditions and for anyone that wants to help. None of them look like that. I'll keep them in mind for next year. Its supposed to warm up in a few days so hopefully the crust will soften up a bit. I made a road up the hill with the dozer when I set this bush up and it was even a little hairy going with that. I doubt a wheeler could help me right now. My snowmobile surely wouldn't make it.
madmapler
03-05-2015, 03:18 PM
Double brook. It just occurred to me where you're from. Readsboro is crazy rugged terrain. I know the area pretty well as I'm not far from there myself. At least its not like some of those hills in Stamford.
Sweetleaf
03-05-2015, 08:54 PM
I find that working the topographic terrain works well.... keep on the same terrain line of you taps, then work the next just below. far easier to sidehill than to ascend/descend. the new crust has really slowed things down. barely getting 150-200 taps (with complications) in on a stout day. trick for me is how i set up my gear. Carry all you may need in order to reduce trips and keep tools and fittings really handy. I wear my gear belt up around my belly so has to have every thing at hands reach. down around my waist is cumbersome. I am a fit skier type but with the extra layers in this weather, the additional clothes get in the way... i use a pair of shortish Atlas snowshoes which keep me on top reasonably well but sidehilling takes out the tip dive that comes with the uphill struggle. i recently skied on the backside of Mansfield toward Thunderbasin and those folks who tap up there are some of the toughest around... steep terrain and a ton of snow at 2800 feet! Kudos to all. its not the deepest snow year, but its the most unconsolidated year of snow in some time. good luck to all and rest those muscles. your gonna need em!
madmapler
03-06-2015, 06:33 AM
I find that working the topographic terrain works well.... keep on the same terrain line of you taps, then work the next just below. far easier to sidehill than to ascend/descend.
I definitely agree with that and I'm glad you mentioned the crust. It changed everything for me. It's going to warm up over the weekend and today is shaping up to be sunny so I'll probably work around the sugarhouse or run power to my vacuum pump. As soon as the crust softens I'll head back up on the hill. Thanks all. Its encouraging to hear that others are fighting with this as well.
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