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Wanabe1972
12-20-2014, 07:32 PM
Guys. I found out some bad news this evening that the sugar bush I tap is going through a divorce. You all know how this usually goes and im pretty sure I'm going to loose the use of the land. I was told I should come get my tanks and vacuum pumps off the property. Most of my main lines are several years old and my lateraland drops ive been updating a little at a time. I use seasonal taps so there's no loss there. Should I try to pull all the lines or leave them? I do have around 400 feet of one inch crossing a field that is new last year that I will pull as there are no holes or saddles mounted to it and can be reused. Jeff

adk1
12-20-2014, 07:40 PM
If the landowners want it off I would remove everything out of respect in my opinion

Wanabe1972
12-20-2014, 07:58 PM
I would always take down what I put up. Just don't know whether to save any of it they have not requested I take anything down he just thought I should get the pumps and such out in case things get ugly.

brookledge
12-21-2014, 07:34 AM
I guess I would remove the tanks and pumps etc but I'd leave the rest in pl a ce. Unless the property has to be sold, who says you can't negotiate an agreement with the wife. All of my property owners either get paid per tap or receive syrup in the equivalent. So I'd think that just because there is a divorce pending doesn't mean you are out.
Keith

lew
12-21-2014, 07:43 AM
Yes, get the pumps, releasers and tanks out of there. You might end up as collateral damage. Lawyers can get real ugly and could make this a very difficult situation for you. As for the lines, save the mainlines and ditch the rest. Mainlines will only need a few repairs to make them usable again and can last for 20 years or more in some instances. Lateral lines would take too much time and effort versus the cost of new to bother saving. when you set up a new woods, it will be new and act new.

Maplewalnut
12-21-2014, 07:46 AM
I guess I would remove the tanks and pumps etc but I'd leave the rest in pl a ce. Unless the property has to be sold, who says you can't negotiate an agreement with the wife. All of my property owners either get paid per tap or receive syrup in the equivalent. So I'd think that just because there is a divorce pending doesn't mean you are out.
Keith

Agree with Keith. Get the high $$$ stuff out but leave tube in place. If you can, communicate with landowner that your hope is to continue tapping the property whatever the outcome. Even if pressed it wouldn't take long to remove that many taps. Good luck

Wanabe1972
12-21-2014, 03:20 PM
I got most of the stuff out today and will leave the lines until I hear what's going on hope they get things straightened out as it. Was a big shock to everyone who knows them.

BreezyHill
12-21-2014, 04:03 PM
Jeff, See if you cant contact the person making the offer on the property. If they will work with you then great, if not then you know where you stand. As I said: get the assets of high value out first and as time permits cut out longer lengths of 5/16 so that they can be turned into drops for another bush.

Good Luck...this is a really crappy situation to be in for all involved.

spud
12-21-2014, 05:19 PM
Guys. I found out some bad news this evening that the sugar bush I tap is going through a divorce. You all know how this usually goes and im pretty sure I'm going to loose the use of the land. I was told I should come get my tanks and vacuum pumps off the property. Most of my main lines are several years old and my lateraland drops ive been updating a little at a time. I use seasonal taps so there's no loss there. Should I try to pull all the lines or leave them? I do have around 400 feet of one inch crossing a field that is new last year that I will pull as there are no holes or saddles mounted to it and can be reused. Jeff

Do you have a lease on this land? If so the land owner may owe you money.

Spud

BnSmaple
12-21-2014, 05:57 PM
I know everyone's situation is different but I would never recommend used tubing for drops.

Wanabe1972
12-22-2014, 08:22 AM
I'm just going to hold off for know until we see what happens. Hopefully they get things straightened out and all is well I don't have a lease just was always able to use the land. I don't think either one would boot me out but if the property is sold to a developer than I'm sure that's the end of my little game.

Loch Muller
12-22-2014, 05:49 PM
I've reused black mainline with good looking results. I've also reused old 5/16 ths tubing for laterals not drops, but that is a little crazy. I even reused tees and couplings on short gravity runs of 8-10 taps by boiling them to soften the tubing enough to pull it off, that is probably a lot crazy. Don't think I'll do that again and wouldn't recommend it unless your dead broke and need more taps. Hopefully you'll find a way to keep the lease and won't have to deal with old tubing. Good luck.

Flat Lander Sugaring
12-22-2014, 06:57 PM
possibly get your high dollar stuff out until you tap if it works out your all set. If it gets ugly and they wont let you back on to get pipe, go through with a 1/4 drill bit and spray foam. Every few hundred feet just a tiny squirt so they would get a little sap but not what they really should get. even with vacuum they wouldnt get much and look for ever trying to find the problem.

sorry I get mean when I been drinking.:lol:

Leadft
01-31-2016, 02:43 AM
Do you have a lease on this land? If so the land owner may owe you money.

Spud

Does anyone have a general Lease that they use for larger sugar bushes to help the legal end of this from our stand point? A word file ect that can be edited to each situation would be awesome. Thanks in advance.

ryebrye
01-31-2016, 11:32 AM
Does anyone have a general Lease that they use for larger sugar bushes to help the legal end of this from our stand point? A word file ect that can be edited to each situation would be awesome. Thanks in advance.

I believe there is a template for a lease agreement in the back of the north american sugarmakers handbook.