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damaille
03-10-2013, 08:49 AM
what is the optimal depth of sap in the rear pan and the depth in the front pan while boiling? while I manually have to regulate from the preheater to the sap pan and also to the syrup pan I find myself fluctuating with the depths. Should I keep the preheater valve open a little so it trickles into the sap pan to maintain depth? should I do this as well from the sap to the syrup pan?
right now I have been keeping them both closed, boiling both pans down then opening valves bringing depth back up and repeating process.

CTfarm
03-10-2013, 08:55 AM
On my 2 x 3 flat pan I run it at about an inch. My preheater sits on top and I let it trickle in to maintain the 1 inch depth. I don't lose my boil this way.

Spartazoo
03-10-2013, 12:21 PM
I run a 2x4 on a homemade arch at about an inch also. Preheated trickles to maintain depth. Still dialing in my setup but yesterday did 7.5 gal per hour. I know I can get to 8 or 9 without a blower.

wnybassman
03-10-2013, 09:22 PM
Yesterday I did 8.3 gph on my 2x4 and was trying to maintain about 3/4". The bottom of my pan is a little oil canned, so I do have to be careful and watch very closely when running that low.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU9JCyCgbC0

JuniperHillSugar
03-10-2013, 10:45 PM
I run 1 1/2-2" in my 2x4 Mason hobby setup. The only modification that I have done so far is to set my preheat pan back nearer to the stack and to paint the back of my preheat pan flat black. I can average 10 gph from the match to closing the sugar house door. I do have really dry spruce wood that has been stacked in the sugar house since last March. Rule number one, don't try to boil sap with wet wood.

damaille
03-10-2013, 11:11 PM
thanks.....I have over 300 taps this year and have a lot of sap to boil down. I am just trying to optimize the best I can. boiled at a rate of almost 20gph today and have been trying different things to increase boil. I tried the fan but with a 2x4 I found that it pushed the heat to the back of the arch and did not get a great boil in the front pans. I wired a speed control on the fan and just couldn't get it to do what i wanted. I found that when I split my wood into smaller pieces and load the arch close to the door I got a fantastic boil in both pans then when I reload I push burnt wood toward the back and reload the front it kept a rigorous boil at all edges of both pans all day. today was a good day ran it at about 1 1/2" depth all day.

slammer3364
03-10-2013, 11:27 PM
No one dry wood. I have a 18x48 with a blower I also split wood very small and last year added another six feet to my stack,I have been boiling inch and a half -two inches before I added to stack I also boiled at one inch. I feel much safer a little deeper and a better boil

damaille
03-11-2013, 12:06 AM
what do you get by adding another 6 feet to stack? does that keep more heat in the arch cause it has to travel further to vent out? what was your stack height before you added the 6'?

wnybassman
03-11-2013, 06:40 AM
thanks.....I have over 300 taps this year and have a lot of sap to boil down. I am just trying to optimize the best I can. boiled at a rate of almost 20gph today and have been trying different things to increase boil. I tried the fan but with a 2x4 I found that it pushed the heat to the back of the arch and did not get a great boil in the front pans. I wired a speed control on the fan and just couldn't get it to do what i wanted. I found that when I split my wood into smaller pieces and load the arch close to the door I got a fantastic boil in both pans then when I reload I push burnt wood toward the back and reload the front it kept a rigorous boil at all edges of both pans all day. today was a good day ran it at about 1 1/2" depth all day.

If you're getting nearly 20 gph in a 2x4 flat bottom, I wouldn't change a thing.

jake22si
03-11-2013, 08:27 AM
If you're getting nearly 20 gph in a 2x4 flat bottom, I wouldn't change a thing. 20 is a real good number for that rig, I only get half that at best with my 2x3