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PARKER MAPLE
03-03-2013, 12:54 PM
Hey guys, I picked a couple of old pump these week so Im kinda playing around with them. One has what appears to be like an oil bottle on the top of the motor. It has a screw on the side of it for what appears to be where you fill it. I no nothing about this pump other then it was free. Any help would be appreaciated? I might be able to post some pictures if I can figured it out.
MR

PARKER MAPLE
03-03-2013, 01:35 PM
7132
here one try hope it worked

PARKER MAPLE
03-03-2013, 01:39 PM
7133 heres try number 2
Like I sadi I have no info on this pumps what so ever. Do any of you vacuum experts reconize this?? It leaks some oil so I would like to find a rebuild kit for it if you guys say its worth it.
Thanks
MR

maple flats
03-03-2013, 04:45 PM
Are there any marking on the pump?

PARKER MAPLE
03-03-2013, 06:51 PM
No None at all, Im going to take it off base tomorrow and see what on the bottomside. I havnt a clue what it is.

saekeaton64
03-03-2013, 07:40 PM
The pump looks like a Conde'. They are used for small animal milking. The one that I have is a Conde' model 2, it pulls about 20" of vacuum with no problem. I don't have it setup on my lines yet, as I just picked it up earlier this season.

saekeaton64
03-04-2013, 08:43 AM
Here are a few pictures of the pump I have. It is an older model than the one you have, notice that the oiler is on the side of the intake port.

PARKER MAPLE
03-04-2013, 03:25 PM
That looks very close, If its is a conde do they still make rebuild kits for it. I noticed as I spun it over with a dril that oil was pouring out around the crank seal. I believe it needs a total over haul. Stuck a vac gauge on as well and didnt even move it. I only took it because I tought it might work well in a small piece of woods we have. like 250-60 taps and there all with in apprx 300 ft.
Thanks Alot for all of your guys input.
MR

saekeaton64
03-04-2013, 08:04 PM
Westmoor Ltd. is the company who manufactures the Conde' pumps.
www.westmoorltd.com, you can contact them to see if they have a rebuild kit for you model. Good luck.

PARKER MAPLE
03-06-2013, 04:00 PM
Thanks guys for your help. what kinda of oil are you guys running in these pump?

PARKER MAPLE
03-19-2013, 10:48 AM
heres some pictures of the insides i believe its a conde like the little one mentioned, also should there be a seal of some sort on the crank shaft behind the pulley?7446744774477448

PARKER MAPLE
03-19-2013, 11:26 AM
6 vanes apprx 3 1/2in long. what can I use for a seal on the crank saft that my biggest objective

PARKER MAPLE
03-19-2013, 04:29 PM
OK I email westmoorltd today they were a great help. I found out its a conde model 3, apprx 50yrs old. The bad side of this is they dont carry/ or make replacement parts for it. Im wondering if there is a seal for the crankshaft that I can get thats aftermarket or make?? anybody try this before or have any I deas?

maple flats
03-19-2013, 04:57 PM
Here's another source http://hambydairysupply.com/xcart/home.php?cat=81
I'll try to find another I have somewhere too, I bought Surge Alamo vanes from them at a far better price that from a Surge dealer. For Conde they may also have parts. (Conde is made about 3 miles from my house.) If I find it I'll add a link in this post.
Sorry, I looked thru all my bookmarks and did not find another link.
Dave

PARKER MAPLE
03-19-2013, 05:12 PM
Thanks mapleflats any help greatly appreciated..
MR

The Sweet Spot
03-20-2013, 08:00 PM
I beleive that you can get that seal from just about any parts store with a micrometer. Take in the housing that the bearing rides in, along with the shaft. Have them mic the parts and bingo you have seals. Even better now that you have it apart install new bearings with built in seals. This pump could last another 50 years. Back in the old days a manurfacture did not create a new bearing for different designs. All bearings were standard sizes. Well I haven't found one that wasn't yet.