Leader can't count

[Typical8]

I'm using this cold snap to make new drop lines. I have so far made 1200 with the CV2's and have yet to open a bag that had a 100 CV's in it. 10 bags had 99 and 2 bags had 98. The T's are a diferent story, if there isn't a 100 in a bag then it is a 101 or 102 ( T's are from a different company). Just wondering if anyone knows how they count? I would think it is by weight, if so I would want to error in the favor of the customer. We wouldn't short fill are syrup containers.

[gmcooper]

I do not think Leader touches any of them. I was told a couple years ago they come packaged from the manufacturer. I haven't used any check valves this year but in the past I was averaging 102 per bag.

[unc23win]

I have had that happen as well. When I was making drops I didn't have enough stubby spouts for my check valves. Now I order a few extra like 105 so then they pack a bafg of 100 and hand count 5, then I just shoot them an e-mail if they short me and they send the rest. So at least if I order 105 and I am shorted I will get the 100 I was trying for.

[sapman]

As soon as I saw this topic, I knew what it was about. Yes, I've gone through almost 20 bags, all short by at least 1. But tees always 100 or more. I'm keeping track!!!

[Cake O' Maple]

You made me go count the 1 bag of cv2's I bought from Sugarbush Supplies in Mason, MI. 100 exactly...I wonder if they package their own.

[ennismaple]

I've noticed the same thing with stubbies and tees. You would think part of the QA process would be to weigh the bag?

[SDdave]

For what its worth (it's not worth alot). My wife is a CPA and used to do year end audits (books, inventory, and what not). She had some clients that sold nuts/bolts/washers etc. Well they have to actually count bags of each to make sure inventories are correct. Of course they do not count each bag but a "sample lot" randomly selected by the auditor. I forget what happens when they actually find a deviation, but it does happen. And it sounds like it happened more than once.

Keep on tappin'

[Potters3]

I put together 900 drops last year, counts didn't match up, I let Leader know and they gave me what was short. Some bags where under and some where over after each group of 100 I would either throw the extra's in a bin or pull out what I needed, total I think I was off 3 tees (short) and a couple of stubbies (extra). They told me they are packaged by weight on a scale. With the little weight of fittings I can see why they maybe off once in awhile.

[ericjeeper]

I totally understand them packaging by weight. But they sell them by the piece, not the Ounce.
Many years ago when I was pouring walls on a job, we kept getting shorted on concrete. So my boss had me construct 3 , 3x3x3 boxes. We ordered 3 yards of concrete. The truck did not have enough to fill them. The concrete company said. " well we batch this by the pound to get the mix.. I remember my boss telling the guy.. Well I am buying it by the cubic yard. And you have consistently been shorting me. I do believe my company was compensated.

[Sunday Rock Maple]

LOL -- sounds like they need to reduce the process standard deviation or increase the targeted mean to improve the Cpk (and if you understand that then you just might be either a six sigma greenbelt or a quality geek -- like yours truly).