Its about time!!!!!!!!

[whitetail farms]

I finally got my 2X6 its a small bros. Waterloo i paid $2000 it came with many extras it just needs to be cleaned up a little and I probably should repaint the arch i will post more picture tomorrow http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5334.jpg

[whitetail farms]

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5337.jpg

[whitetail farms]

we repainted the arch here is a pic with the primer and thhttp://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5336.jpge pic before this is with the 2nd coat of high heat black paint

[Bucket Head]

Judging by what was in the back of your truck, all you need now is the firewood and some sap! Congratulations on the 'new' equipment. Good luck with it and have fun!

Steve

[whitetail farms]

haha yeah i need a few more things there's a 100 buckets i bought from the same guy for $500 with taps and lids i only need some tanks and i wanna put some taps on tubing but im pretty much ready to go ,and thanks i defiantly will have fun !!!!!!!!

[whitetail farms]

i also need to replace a lot of the fire bricks as well.

[Flat Lander Sugaring]

looks good, I'm happy things are falling in place for you. Just repair the bricks in fire box put fire blanket or fire board every where else.

[western mainer]

Looks great. What type of high temp paint are you going to use?
Brian

[whitetail farms]

thanks guys!!!,the pain is called high temp ultra its just black and you can get at lowes for like 7 bucks a can but it only goes up to like 1200 degrees so i hope its will be okay.

[jmayerl]

Oh my, is that a Fiero in the background..............

[whitetail farms]

if by "Fiero" you mean a Pontiac firebird then yess its my moms

[nymapleguy607]

When you get a chance it would be a good idea to water test the pans. I had an older small brothers that was stainless steel but it had a bunch of pin hole leaks in it. Its better to find them now than right before your first boil.

[802maple]

As far as the paint goes, was the primer you used High Heat? If not it will peel the High Heat paint off the arch when it heats up.

[jmayerl]

Nope by Fiero, I meant Fiero(Pontiacs mid 80's attempt at a sportscar). I thought that's what it looked like......

[maple flats]

Any high temp rated paint will work if you properly insulate the arch. Use bricks and insulating board for the firebox and insulating board for the rest. You can also use vermiculite topped with half brick or just a 1/2" layer of refractory laid dry and misted several times to allow it to set up to hold the vermiculite from flying up the stack. If you chose vermiculite, find a greenhouse suppliy house such as Milikowski, the vermiculite will be cheap there in huge babs rather than getting the tiny bags offered in places like Lowes.

[whitetail farms]

no i just used regular primer i hope that will be okay and im going to water test the pans tomorrow

[802maple]

As long as you insulate it well, it will hold up, but if you don't the regular primer will flake off, taking the high heat paint with it. Good luck

[whitetail farms]

okay,thanks for the help guys but now my big ? is what should i do underneath the fire box sense my sugar house has a wooden floor i just put 7 inches of cinder blocks underneath it and cut the rest of my stack to fit so i cant really chance that but i could but like fire brick on top of the cinder blocks where the legs for the arch arent but do you guys have any ideas about how i can protect the floor,thanks nick

[Bruce L]

How about cement board that is often put under or behind wood stoves?

[whitetail farms]

thanks Bruce thats what i just did now im gonna start fire bricking my arch!!!!!!

[68bird]

As long as it's a Pontiac. It's good with me!I'm going with early ninties Firebird Formula.

[whitetail farms]

here are some picture of the arch setup im gonna wait on the fire brick cause i want to try and gualk some of the sheet metal first
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5342.jpg

[whitetail farms]

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5340.jpg

[whitetail farms]

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5341.jpg

[spencer11]

do you have double wall stack running through the roof? it looks like it, where did you get it and what size goes into it and what size is the double wall?

[Bruce L]

Looks good,only problem I see that you may encounter is the elbow in your stack,I had a 2x6 and I set up quite similar to what you have now,I found I had to go through the peak after a test boil,couldn't get the right draft with the elbow in the stack.
Bruce

[whitetail farms]

yeah i really hope that wont be a problem i could move the arch to the right and put the counter on the other side if i need to and,i know that the stack going through the roof is a double walled insulated 8 inch stack but ill have to check with my dad to get the rest of the specs.we just bought it from a chimney and stove dealer up by where i live.

[western mainer]

I had a double wall insulated pipe on my D@G and it got so hot you could burn yourself on it.
Brian

[whitetail farms]

i also have water in my float from cleaning it and it does not float any more how could i get this water out,thanks nick

[spencer11]

so basicaly double wall isnt worth the extra money? there is water in on of my floats to but not enough to cause a problem. but take it out and dry it off and hang it a couple different ways to see if it drips out so you can find the leak maybe?

[whitetail farms]

i already tried that didnt work could i drill a hole in the top of it drill it then try to either braze back over the hole or solder over it

[spencer11]

yeah that should work, i would use solder. i soldered my float and i was really easy and was done in minuits

[whitetail farms]

okay thanks,now im fire bricking the arch and trying to piece in the old ones but im haveing a pretty hard time i might just cut big ones to fit then by new ones to Finnish it but do i need to use cement or anything between them

[spencer11]

i am also wondering that, cause this year i dont think i will have enough $ to insulate it, so im just gonna use the brick i got..maybe insulate the fire box but thats it. so can i use un-cemented brick this year and then put the insulation in and brick it and cement it next year if i dont insulate it?

[Middleton Maples]

Cementing the bricks just holds them in place so they wont get bumped and fall out, also makes it air tight. Its called refractory cement that u use, good for up to 2900 degrees. There is two kinds of refractory cement, pre-mixed (no water needed) and dry mix. Don't get the pre-mixed stuff, its no good, make sure its dry mix and add the water your-self. Pre mixed refractory breaks down much faster and doesn't last. Its doesn't even meet building code if that even matters. Put very little cement in between the bricks, about an 1/8 inch. Don't use masonry cement ether and try to avoid the bricks touching any metal or steal in the arch. Hope this helps.

[whitetail farms]

yeah,should i put brick underneath the fire box inside the ash pit as well?

[Middleton Maples]

I did, but it really doesn't matter. Just make sure the bricks don't get in the way of your air intake door handle.

[whitetail farms]

okay thanks,i just filled my pans up with water and my syrup pan as a small leak should i try to solder it or just take it to a shop and get it tig welded