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whitetail farms
04-15-2012, 02:42 PM
broke ground on my new 12X20 sugar house,http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5050.jpg
whitetail farms
04-15-2012, 02:43 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5049.jpg
whitetail farms
04-15-2012, 02:43 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5047.jpg
whitetail farms
04-15-2012, 02:44 PM
unfortunately its a wooden floor
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5051.jpg
whitetail farms
04-15-2012, 02:45 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5026.jpg
whitetail farms
04-15-2012, 02:46 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5025.jpg
whitetail farms
04-15-2012, 02:47 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5027.jpg
whitetail farms
04-15-2012, 02:48 PM
hit my truck off the corner of the fence :( http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5045.jpg
GramaCindy
04-16-2012, 05:53 AM
Looking forward to updates!
whitetail farms
04-16-2012, 11:57 PM
worked on it till 11 tonight
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5056.jpg
whitetail farms
04-16-2012, 11:58 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5052.jpg
whitetail farms
04-16-2012, 11:59 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5054.jpg
whitetail farms
04-16-2012, 11:59 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5055.jpg
Flat Lander Sugaring
04-18-2012, 06:32 AM
just in Lake George last Sunday taking a ride in our Jeep,
Should I ask whats under the blue tarps?:)
whitetail farms
04-18-2012, 09:01 PM
really?i live like right of exit 23,but there just sono tubes with wet cement under the tarps it was supposed to ran that night but never did i just got the rim Joice put up today
Like Minded Farmer
04-20-2012, 06:02 PM
Can,t wait to see it go up. Are you going to sharpen the pungie sticks?:lol:
RustyBuckets
04-20-2012, 08:39 PM
You should nave Don come over and video tape your progress, hes pretty handy with a camera!
whitetail farms
04-22-2012, 03:12 PM
yeah anyone can come take a look anytime just pm me and ill give you the address,but does anyone know how long of a cupola i should build for it
Greenwich Maple Man
04-22-2012, 06:07 PM
yeah anyone can come take a look anytime just pm me and ill give you the address,but does anyone know how long of a cupola i should build for it
I'm in Greenwich and am up your way alot. Would love to stop by and say hi. Were off of exit 23 are you? I do alot of hunting and fishing up through Johnsburgh and Indian Lake, Speculater area.
Flat Lander Sugaring
04-22-2012, 06:08 PM
i believe the same length as evaporator, If I could upload pics I would show you mine but maple trader is not very friendly to uploading of pics ( at least my experiance)
here a photobucket link
http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e234/poultneyfiredog18/Sugaring/
whitetail farms
04-23-2012, 07:33 AM
well i still only am using my homemade evaporator but i think ill make it 6 feet just for some growing room,and if you take a right of exit 23 then then next right onto trues dale hill rd i live at the top of that hill
whitetail farms
04-24-2012, 10:55 PM
and could anybody tell me what type of tar paper I need if i put on a shingled roof,thanks nick
Greenwich Maple Man
04-24-2012, 11:03 PM
well i still only am using my homemade evaporator but i think ill make it 6 feet just for some growing room,and if you take a right of exit 23 then then next right onto trues dale hill rd i live at the top of that hill
I sold firewood to a guy on the top of that road. He lived on the left in a yellow house, I think. Can't remember his name I think he worked for a stone company. He wanted me to do a small clearing job across from his house.
Flat Lander Sugaring
04-25-2012, 06:03 AM
and could anybody tell me what type of tar paper I need if i put on a shingled roof,thanks nick
like what # felt to use?
whitetail farms
04-25-2012, 09:50 PM
WOW!!no kidding ,yes that guy works for Champlain stone and i believe he own a property across the road that has a garage on it,i live 3 houses down on the right from him,and yess what # felt
Greenwich Maple Man
04-25-2012, 10:19 PM
WOW!!no kidding ,yes that guy works for Champlain stone and i believe he own a property across the road that has a garage on it,i live 3 houses down on the right from him,and yess what # felt
Small world !
gmcooper
04-25-2012, 10:26 PM
We use 15# felt most of the time and occasionaly 30# if we need extra protection under shingles. There are also a number of similar type products on the market that are a bit tougher and also cost more.
Mark
whitetail farms
04-25-2012, 11:06 PM
okay thank you and can i use osb for the roof sheathing
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:03 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5084.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:05 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5082.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:07 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5080.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:08 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5079.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:09 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5076.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:11 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5075.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:12 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5086.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:13 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5073-1.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:15 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5072.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:16 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5068-1.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:18 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5065-1.jpg
whitetail farms
04-29-2012, 08:19 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5064-1.jpg
Greenwich Maple Man
04-29-2012, 08:41 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5080.jpg
Looks great. I see one problem. No maple trees in sight ! I'll be up that way alot in the next few months. Will have to let you know and stop by for a tour if you are open.
Flat Lander Sugaring
04-30-2012, 06:10 AM
WOW!!no kidding ,yes that guy works for Champlain stone and i believe he own a property across the road that has a garage on it,i live 3 houses down on the right from him,and yess what # felt
isnt the guys name from champlain stone named Andre?
Im glad to see a window going on the high side otherwise that first step after a couple boiling sodas could hurt a person :)
whitetail farms
04-30-2012, 08:12 PM
yeah i know its a shame there isn't one maple tree next to it there a sand of pines then it gets intothe maples but i only have like 30 maple 40 trees to tap i haven't even started working in the woods yet so i guess i cant really call it a sugar bush, and im not sure what the guys name is
whitetail farms
05-20-2012, 06:18 PM
its been a while sense i last gave you guys an update so here is one from the end of the 5th week sense we started digging footings
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5155.jpg
Like Minded Farmer
05-22-2012, 05:36 PM
Well done. Show us the setup inside when get it set up.
Randy Brutkoski
05-22-2012, 06:12 PM
Nice sugarhouse. Has sam from cdl contacted you to put a chinook in there yet. just saying
Flat Lander Sugaring
05-22-2012, 06:16 PM
Nice sugarhouse. Has sam from cdl contacted you to put a chinook in there yet. just saying
you _()_()_(_*)(*& trouble maker hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha this is messed up cant even put a smiley face up FIX THE SITE JEZZUM
Thad Blaisdell
05-22-2012, 07:46 PM
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OGcOofyag8M/T5zVKoMqjvI/AAAAAAAAAa8/Z5Hee1FeD-I/s1600/Chinook%2BHelicopter--14002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://freeamazingpics.blogspot.com/2012/04/chinook-helicopter-pictures.html&h=365&w=550&sz=78&tbnid=he-HNiUAF_gxIM:&tbnh=68&tbnw=102&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dchinook%2Bhelicopter%26tbm%3Disch%26t bo%3Du&zoom=1&q=chinook+helicopter&usg=__ERtA9tmQJbdgmzmadIhWhlIEfi8=&docid=1eTLrcSnERLK_M&sa=X&ei=ESW8T4iLN4GS9gT9irgw&ved=0CHUQ9QEwAw&dur=171
believe I copied a picture of the new evap
Randy Brutkoski
05-22-2012, 08:40 PM
If thats what it is , then i need to get 1. It is going to fly me down 3000 gallons of sap at a clip from Thads.
whitetail farms
05-28-2012, 12:51 AM
haha,well its pretty much finished up today we just have to build a ramp and Finnish the top of the smoke stack then put some shelves inside but im having a pretty ard time finding the right evaporator :-|
ClarkFarmMapleSyrup
05-28-2012, 08:18 AM
If there are maples in a good number to start off like 50 or so, or more, dont buy a half pint. I am selling ours soon, because we bought a 2x6 and we did 101 on the halfpint and it was horrible! be ready for all day boils, because with only 4-5gph it is slow. Once you say you have a set # of taps, like 50, still look for more around, and soon youll be moving that number up, alot. I did. I said I wouldn'd do more than 30-40 taps like ever. then last year over a hundred, so Plan Big. Here is a evaporator that I would think is pretty cool http://www.mapleguys.com/index.php?item=395&ret=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mapleguys.com%2Findex.php%3Fp age%3D1%26category%3D27
also, they have 18"x5' evaps, and 2x5's good for a minimum of 50 taps.
Have fun, and nice sugar house. If I were you and starting out and buying an evap, dont make it so you have to buy a bigger one in a year like I did.
Flat Lander Sugaring
05-31-2012, 07:45 PM
haha,well its pretty much finished up today we just have to build a ramp and Finnish the top of the smoke stack then put some shelves inside but im having a pretty ard time finding the right evaporator :-|
awesome, there are evaps out there to be had, just think about what you plan on doing in the future.
whitetail farms
05-31-2012, 11:14 PM
yeah i think i want a 2X6 but i just cant find any close enough i also need some more buckets though
Flat Lander Sugaring
06-01-2012, 07:00 AM
yeah i think i want a 2X6 but i just cant find any close enough i also need some more buckets though
think manufac. advertise like 200 taps or so for a 2x6. How many taps do you plan on going with?
Going to A&W this coming Sunday, if I can will stop by
whitetail farms
06-01-2012, 08:41 PM
okay ill be more than happy to have you,the address is 603 TruesDale hill RD,its right at the top....i plan to tap 150 at the most probably
We have around 300 on a 2x6 and it is fine for years like the one we just had, but maybe a little small for a year like 2011. I don't think we'll get a bigger one because it's not that safe an area where we have our sugarhouse.
It seems to work well. I think if we had 400 or more taps we would need something bigger, or an RO. (or more time to boil)
whitetail farms
06-04-2012, 06:27 PM
yeah a 2X6 should be plenty for me for a many more years i think
whitetail farms
06-08-2012, 09:37 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/CopyofIMG_5235.jpg
whitetail farms
06-08-2012, 09:37 PM
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/niclperrone/IMG_5236.jpg
maple flats
06-09-2012, 08:17 AM
When I first built my sugarhouse I planned a max of 200 taps, I'm now at 1100 growing to 1600-1700 this year and another 500-600 more the next year.. Caution, plan big, this is addictive to say the least.
whitetail farms
06-09-2012, 09:18 PM
i know it is and i would love to get that big the only thing holding me back is I dont have enough LAND :mad:
Tyoga Tappers
06-22-2012, 03:56 PM
Dave, Where can I get the plans to build a 16 X 20 ft Sugarshack? I hope you can point me in the right direction. I'm new to this and I want to jump in with both feet. THANKS!!
SEMPER FI
Tyoga Tappers
spencer11
06-22-2012, 07:29 PM
i am going with that same size and am not using plans, just making it suit me. just make sure the walls are high enough and there is enough pitch to the roof, and then build it how you want it. thats what im doing, and wood or gravel or concrete floor?
maple flats
06-23-2012, 09:06 AM
Read North American Maple Producer's Manual, there is a chapter on sugarhouse design. I designed my own just from pictures of sugarhouses, before I even knew such a resource existed.
Whitetail farms, niether do I have enough land. Don't let that slow your dream. I only have enough for 130 sugar maple taps and another maybe 100 reds, of which I only tap 30 so far. The rest of my taps are all rented. On one lease I had 550 taps but dropped to 525 and eliminated the laterals with the most extreme climbs, my other lease had only a small portion of it's potential tapped. That lease will get another 400-600 taps this summer/fall and about the same each year until it maxes out at somewhere around 2000-2500 if my current guesstimate is close. It is a perfectly sloped bush, facing southwest, with predominately sugar maple (no soft maples at all). The landowner of that lease stopped to talk with me as I was collecting sap from my other lease and told me about his woods. It was just meant to be.
I got that landowner into an Ag Exemption based on my production and he is seeing taxes at about 1/3 of what it was, plus I pay him for the right to tap his trees (I'm on a 5 yr lease with automatic renewal for 5 more as long as I have not broken any terms of the lease)
whitetail farms
06-23-2012, 08:10 PM
yeah,im gonna tap some trees on my 3 neighbors land so that would give me 10 acres to tap on but im not really sure how many maples there are but my neighbor also owns 20 acres where someone used to tap not to far from me so i might start tapping there and trucking sap,i just hope i can but tubing up so i dont have to spend so much time driving and collecting buckets
BWilson0711
07-26-2012, 01:57 PM
Great Looking Shack - Enjoy!
Alberto8100
08-04-2012, 03:08 AM
Great sharing...
Thanks for sharing this...
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