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500592
02-25-2012, 09:44 AM
After boiling we realized we need to build a preheater to help with efficiency we have a sheet of stainless steel and an assortment of ss pipes we wer thinking a long the lines of a steamaway any photos or drawings and explinations would help thanks

Jec
02-25-2012, 11:55 AM
Leader has a description. http://www.leaderevaporator.com/p-283-steam-away.aspx
I once saw a pdf with pics and everything on google about it.

500592
02-26-2012, 10:30 AM
If someone could explain where the steam pipes go I think we could make one.

500592
02-26-2012, 07:31 PM
Anyone????

TimJ
02-27-2012, 10:26 AM
Isn't the "steamaway" patented by Leader...

If that is the case then copying it without a license/agreement with them is not legal?

wiam
02-27-2012, 10:55 AM
Isn't the "steamaway" is a Leader patent...

If that is the case then copying it without a license/agreement with them is not legal?

I have not looked that up but have been told they can only go after you if you sell, not if you use it yourself. Someone on here built a copy, but I can not remember who.

TimJ
02-27-2012, 11:42 AM
I have not looked that up but have been told they can only go after you if you sell, not if you use it yourself. Someone on here built a copy, but I can not remember who.

I suspect that what you wrote is just a matter of logistics - it is not really enforceable to find someone who has copied for their own use.

I'm not an attorney, but I would imagine that asking for designs of a patented object with clear plans on making one so as not to have to buy it MIGHT be crossing the line...

I am not trying to stifle innovation or home building. The initial question was fine. But the apparent impatient follow up of, "anyone?" in less than 10 hours irked me for some reason. (As if people have nothing better to do than post designs of leader's patent on this forum.) There are also plenty of conventional preheater designs and pictures around the site.

Again - I am ignorant of patent law, but showing/uploading the design might cause trouble for maple trader...

TimJ
02-27-2012, 12:24 PM
Try this thread for more information. It's not an easy thing to build...

http://mapletrader.com/community/showthread.php?2398-Has-anyone-made-a-steamaway

I am not sure leader owns the patent. Apparently there is an old patent and then a newer one in 1990 that leader may be licensing.

US patent 5,049,199

500592
02-27-2012, 02:55 PM
Well we just want to mak one for personal use all we need to know is placement of steam pipes

Jec
02-27-2012, 04:04 PM
Go to http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid...w=1280&bih=600
Look for Piggy back evaporating for maple syrup evaporator ... - Google
This is for a piggyback but the seam away is the same.

moeh1
02-27-2012, 06:41 PM
If their patent is the one listed above, it expired almost 2 years ago and the public is free to use those teachings.