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SouthernSap
11-16-2011, 07:33 AM
Hello, everyone! I am a crazy nut job. Ok, well, somewhat. I am one of those guys who always has to experiment with everything in life and push the envelope in all things. I spent a good deal of time in Maine over the years, where I enjoyed gathering sap and making syrup on the wood stove on a casual, private basis. Now I live in "tropical" South Carolina, where, like, nobody taps trees. I don't even know if it is possible to get any sap at all down here, but I do know there are red maples all over the place down here, including 4 in my yard. There is even a sugar maple in my yard that somebody must have planted decades ago, seeing how they're not exactly native to the area. My friend who lives about three miles from me has at least 50, maybe 100 mature red maples.

I would like to hear all the opinions and information available about the feasibility of getting sap here in the South. Mind you, at this stage, it is more of academic and experimental interest than on a competitive commercial basis. I would be happy with much smaller sap harvests per tree than are acceptable for commercial operations up north. This is more of a "for fun" thing for me. If it should work out, then I would be willing to ramp things up in the years to come and go into full production mode. South Carolina, at least my area, has a healthy farmers' market and roadside stand business to sell fruits, veggies, and so on. The sheer novelty of local maple syrup would be a bonanza. However, first I need to see if sap will even come out of a tree here under any circumstances....

Being the experimental nut case that I am, I am also intrigued with the possibilities of tapping other kinds of trees. We do have box elders and walnuts around here, so I will want to try those, and also sycamores. I can't help wondering about other species too-- are those the only trees that are safe or desirable? Tulip trees sure smell good when you cut them or break them open, sourwood trees smell intriguing, and then there is sassafrass and sweet gum...

Ok, so you can see I'm a total nut job. I will try not to be too obnoxious on the forum. I understand if some of you aren't really interested in these fringe-lunatic dsicussions, but if there are a few people on here who can help me figure these things out, it's most appreciated. I'll be looking to buy a few spials shortly.
:D

220 maple
11-16-2011, 08:08 AM
SouthernSap,
Welcome to the message board of Slightly, Half, Semi, Somewhat, and of coarse Total Nut Jobs when it come to collecting sap and making syrup. Now with that out of the way, I believe your best bet will be with the Red Maples. However if they are like the ones I use in the Mountains of West Virginia they will bud very early. If my memory is correct only two times in the past 12 years the Reds stayed open as late as the Sugars. If you have freezing weather they should produce. Your season will be very early, probably like the guys in Kentucky that post on this board. I'm sure they start in early Jan. and are finished by the middle of Feb.. They are finishing when I'm just getting started. Hopefully some of the Kentucky producers will give you some insight on when to start?

Mark 220 Maple

SouthernSap
11-16-2011, 08:17 AM
Would it hurt anything to go ahead and tap them at the first sign of freezing weather, and just leave them in and keep checking them all winter? Maybe redrill them if it's been a while?

220 maple
11-16-2011, 05:17 PM
SouthernSap,
I have considered doing that myself with the Red maples, in fact if your going to redrill I have heard of producer who drilled before Christmas, one hole per tree and then move the tap after the first hole dried up and by the end he had made a full crop of syrup. I have wanted to drill just my Reds between Christmas and New Years every year but can never get ready, As I stated before they will quit early.

Mark 220 Maple

Sugar Shack
03-08-2013, 09:43 AM
Southern Sap,
I am planning on planting about 300 red maples. I would like to know what kind of progress you are getting sap out of maples in the south. I am in NC.
Thanks

happy thoughts
03-08-2013, 10:10 AM
Sugar Shack- not sure southern sap will be back to reply since this thread is an old one. You might be interested in these links. There was one commercial syrup operation in NC a few years ago located near Asheville. They were written up in your state magazine here:
http://www.ourstate.com/maple-creek-farm/

They have a website, but it looks like they are no longer making syrup because of changing climate.
http://www.maplecreekfarm.net/

It might be worth calling them or making a visit. I have always found you NC folks to be among the kindest, most generous people, so I bet they'd be willing to share their experiences with you. Again good luck!

sweetgum wisperer
10-28-2015, 07:19 PM
did you get anything from the sweet gum.