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maplefarmer
10-07-2011, 08:56 PM
I was told that the asian longhorned beetle is beginning to destroy maple trees, like the emerald ash bore has or is doing to ash trees. He seemed to think he seen this on some news somewhere that Boston has cut down like 18000 trees that were infected. Has anyone heard of this or is it our news media trying to panic everone?

BryanEx
10-07-2011, 09:11 PM
The most recent articles I've read implied that ALB is not quite as devastating as first projected but still a serious threat to maple trees. Give me a day and I'll post some links for you.

- Bryan Ex

foursapssyrup
10-07-2011, 11:18 PM
it seems to be a pretty serious threat to us. there is actually a quarantined area around worcester that you cannot bring firewood into or out of. As a local, it scares the crap out of me. Most of our woods are maples, and if that bug infests them, it would not be good.

Flat47
10-08-2011, 06:33 AM
Take some time and read through the ALB Discussion sticky. There are a bunch of links and info there. For sure, the ALB is destructive and a serious threat.

OneLegJohn
10-08-2011, 07:40 AM
Very slow moving beetle. Based on what I've read, if you are in your woods and find the ALB, you would be able to save your trees with early detection. That makes me feel a little better, however, I wonder how long before we bring some other insect from China that won't be as timid. There is probably a good reason Sugar Maples aren't growing in China. Free trade, in my opinion, isn't going to be so free when a devastating insect finds it's way the The States on a barge and destroys the maple industry.

BryanEx
10-08-2011, 07:49 AM
it seems to be a pretty serious threat to us.
Of course and I didn't mean to diminish the impact this insect has on forested areas because it is serious. What I was referring to is that resent information released from some forestry organizations has stated that some maples have been able to withstand an ALB attack. The tree has been damaged and most others die but at least a few can possibly make it through. The best possible scenario is still to contain and eliminate the beetle.

red maples
10-08-2011, 08:38 AM
Yes that is Real story although not in boston but worcester MA. back in 2008 and I think they cut down alot more trees than 18,000 trees to date. They had a little case by a hospital with 6 trees right by the arbordeum(sp?) so many big beautiful trees in danger and or gone form this beetle. very destructive to say the least. **** free trade with china!!! :mad:

DrTimPerkins
10-08-2011, 08:53 AM
Very slow moving beetle.

That is true -- unless it hitches a ride by some person moving wood out of a quarantine area. That is the biggest danger.

Flat47
10-08-2011, 06:55 PM
That is true -- unless it hitches a ride by some person moving wood out of a quarantine area. That is the biggest danger.

Indeed. Research in Michigan has shown that the spread of the ALB has followed major routes of travel.

sugarmountain
10-08-2011, 08:07 PM
I shared my concernes with several people in the us forest service and got little if any response. My consernes were that they seem to have several plans for detection but little in place to battle them once they are detected. The only response i got was after i convinced bernie sanders office to help me out.:confused:

foursapssyrup
10-09-2011, 07:47 AM
Once they are detected, there are only a few ways of eradicating them. Destroy the infected trees, or chemically treat the infected trees. Neither one is ideal, but the reality is that this is a bug, and there is really no way to completely eliminate it. all we can hope for is that it stays contained.

TapME
10-09-2011, 07:53 AM
I wonder where and how they got rid of all those infected maples? I see lots of loging trucks bring saw logs into MAINE every day on 95. Makes you think if there is a buck to be made that someone would do it.

Greenwich Maple Man
10-09-2011, 08:13 AM
I wonder where and how they got rid of all those infected maples? I see lots of loging trucks bring saw logs into MAINE every day on 95. Makes you think if there is a buck to be made that someone would do it.

I agree with you 100%. The whole band on moving firewood is a joke. As a logger I know wood (maple) gets shipped to lots of different states. I know we have had loads go to Mich. Plus they say not to move wood over 50 miles? There trucking pulp to Glens Falls from the farthest parts of NY, MA,VT,PA.There is know way they are going to stop them either. Sawlogs get moved all ever the world. It is a huge industrie with alot more money behind it then suagring has. I just hope that some people use there head and consience.

DrTimPerkins
10-09-2011, 08:42 AM
I wonder where and how they got rid of all those infected maples?

infested trees are chipped within the quarantine area and then shipped to a nearby incinerator for burning.

DrTimPerkins
10-09-2011, 08:45 AM
I agree with you 100%. The whole band on moving firewood is a joke. As a logger I know wood (maple) gets shipped to lots of different states.

It is fine to ship wood as long as you're not in the quarantine area.

TapME
10-09-2011, 03:48 PM
infested trees are chipped within the quarantine area and then shipped to a nearby incinerator for burning.

was that before and after the quarantine was in effect or just after? I'm not against anyone making money but common sence has to be used don't you think?

allgreenmaple
10-09-2011, 07:19 PM
I agree with you 100%. The whole band on moving firewood is a joke. As a logger I know wood (maple) gets shipped to lots of different states. I know we have had loads go to Mich. Plus they say not to move wood over 50 miles? There trucking pulp to Glens Falls from the farthest parts of NY, MA,VT,PA.There is know way they are going to stop them either. Sawlogs get moved all ever the world. It is a huge industrie with alot more money behind it then suagring has. I just hope that some people use there head and consience. I hear you. DEC really has some rediculous rules that are far overeaching. I think in some instances, some of this stuff just justifies them putting more people on the payroll.

Greenwich Maple Man
10-09-2011, 07:56 PM
I hear you. DEC really has some rediculous rules that are far overeaching. I think in some instances, some of this stuff just justifies them putting more people on the payroll.

So true !!!! Putting a ban on moving firewood is plain stupid! Another rule they can't enforce. They need to come up with some more legitimate ways to stop this invasive bug. Of course this is the easiest way, control the people more instead, of doing their job. How can they prove were you are bringing wood from?

foursapssyrup
10-09-2011, 08:15 PM
you cannot move timber logs out of the quarantine area, nor can you move firewood out of the quuarantine area. this is to ensure that the ALB does not spread because of us bringing them to another area or state. it is a safety measure ensuring it contains the infestation.
personally i don't think this is a way to employ more people, i think it is acting responsible for once. if this were to spread, many of our sugar bushes would be in major jeopardy! we are extremely nervous about it, as ours is only 1/2 hour from worcester. I suppose it's only a matter of time, but our woods are 70%+/- maples. so ALB could really hurt us.

DrTimPerkins
10-09-2011, 08:44 PM
was that before and after the quarantine was in effect or just after? I'm not against anyone making money but common sence has to be used don't you think?

Only after.