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chenango maple
10-04-2011, 04:35 AM
Hello all. I am having problems with grainy maple cream. I tested for invert with a one touch ultra mini tester and it tested low although I do not have a great deal of faith in the tester. I got several error messages and used a whole lot of test strips which are not real cheap. I got two readings of 26 and 27 which I think would be at the low edge of useable for cream making. Anyway the last batch came out perfect. I only boiled to 230 because of low inverts and put in the fridge overnight undesturbed and stirred in the morning with a kithchen aid for 30 minutes. It was smooth, creamy and no crystals. I put it in a plastic cream tub and back in the fridge ovenight. The next morning I checked and the crystals are back. Why would the crystals form later on? Any suggestions would be appreciated. I am making more maple sugar than I need from cream attempts gone bad.
Thanks
Charlie
My first guess would be that you didn't stir it long enough. when you are stirring and your crystals start to form your syrup goes from a dark taffy like consistency to alighter color as the crystals start to grow. At this stage the almost cream will have a shiny appearance to its surface. The cream is done when the shiny surface goes away and your surface has a flat appearance (flat as in no shine, like the difference between a gloss paint and a flat paint.). If you stop stirring before it goes flat, the sugar crystals that are already formed will continue to grow and become larger, thus giving you a sandy, crunchy, crystally, whatever you want to call it, cream.l
Amber Gold
10-04-2011, 11:53 AM
I've found if you don't get it cooled quickly enough that I'll get a few large crystals to form, but the cream itself is still smooth.
I have been told not to cool in fridge because vibrations from compressor will start crystals.
chenango maple
10-04-2011, 04:06 PM
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I will try, try again.
Charlie
ziggy
10-05-2011, 06:41 AM
cooling in the frig is ok, just put a towel under it to dampin the vibration which causes the cyrstals
Sugarmaker
10-06-2011, 08:20 PM
Several things:
- Yes the fridge might vibrate it.
- I would also make sure you have scalded you pan and equipment to remove and possible sugar grains hanging around.
-Also I have not had good luck with using a mixer they just don't seem to have the right agitation.
- I used our Hobart mixer and the cream looked good until the next day an then had crystals as you described.
- getting the invert level can help a lot too.
Regards,
Chris
Russell Lampron
10-07-2011, 08:05 PM
I put the pan of syrup in ice and water in the sink. I let it cool until it is 70* or colder then stir and stir and stir with a wooden spoon. The cream comes out nice and smooth.
chenango maple
10-08-2011, 05:51 AM
I found Chris (Sugaraker)s comment interesting that the mixers do not seem to work well. I had that thought also. Is anyone else using the kitchen aid or Hobart mixers and having good results? Chris did you end up getting a paddle machine? I know hand mixing works but it is pretty hard work. I have been putting off buying the cream machine as they are quite pricey. I may have already reached the point of no return on investment on this business (hobby) already. :lol:
unclebuck
10-08-2011, 06:13 AM
never used a kitchen aid mixer because i've been told that you can burn up the motor making maple cream with it. WHAT WE HAVE USED FOR THE PAST 6 YEARS IS AN OLD PAINT MIXER DRIVEN BY A CHAIN WE DID REPLACE THE MOTOR LAST YEAR AS IT FINALLY DIED. Where the paint can sits we shimmed to allow a ss pot to fit then we made a ss paddle in place of the paint stirrer. This will stir about 1/2 hr cream comes out great. Heat light syrup to 234 degrees and cool to 70 degrees. cooling is done by a circulating pump coming out of a pan filled with water and as much ice as we can fit. we do about 1-2 gallons at a time. never came up with large crystals
chenango maple
10-08-2011, 06:45 AM
Yes I only use a couple pints of syrup at a time. The kitchen aide seems to handle that without much stress. I would not try a gallon though. I am sure that would burn it out.
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