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dcddesign
09-27-2011, 05:35 PM
What do use to install long runs of main-line tubing?

We had a contractor use an Eagle Lasher to answer:
“Most recently we used on placing 1 inch vacuum lines for the production of maple syrup. The old way of doing it was slow: using hand twist ties it took all day to do 1000 feet. With the Eagle lasher we do 1000 feet in about an hour.

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Tom Sweeney,
TMT Contractors

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Thad Blaisdell
09-27-2011, 06:05 PM
How in the heck do you get that thing around trees?

Looks pretty cool But I can do 750 ft an hour the old way.

twitch
09-27-2011, 06:37 PM
I put up 1000 feet wire tube ties and all in a day alone in the snow.

markct
09-27-2011, 07:45 PM
what is the price of these roughly, i have always hoped to find an old phone company one to try and use as i have a feeling they are a bit outa my price range new

3rdgen.maple
09-27-2011, 11:26 PM
Lashers are nothing new to the industry there are a few guys on here that use them. Me I will stick to old school ties. It doesnt take very long at all to do it and its a heck of alot cheaper. I cant imagine how many more feet of wire it takes to use a lasher.

Thompson's Tree Farm
09-28-2011, 04:42 AM
ever try getting a saddle under that stuff?

Thad Blaisdell
09-28-2011, 05:42 AM
I am thinking if the line is ever broken the whole thing would come loose.... what a mess.

dcddesign
09-28-2011, 06:27 PM
Wanted to thank everyone for their feedback, questions and comments.

One may tie the wire off with a tie-wire or clamp move the machine to the other side of the tree and continue lashing.

The Eagle Lasher will also work in the snow, but will finish a 1,000 ft run in an hour.

Yes, the Eagle Lasher is well designed made up of many parts which makes this machine work so well. The Eagle is priced accordingly. We’re also looking for maple syrup supply companies that would be interested in taking on these machines and having them available to rent to syrup producers. A more economical tool would be our Model Q/Hand (http://www.dcddesign.com/model-q-lasher.htm) Lasher. See Video (http://www.youtube.com/user/DCDDesignAndMfg#p/u/16/kSVHVL6rkOw)

Lashers have been used in the telecommunications industry since the 1940’s. Typically used on overhead telephone cables. We’ve seen lashed cable be left untouched for decades without issues. IF one is concerned, one may use a tie-wire or clamp every 100 or so feet as a safeguard.

To see an Eagle Lasher in action view the following video (http://www.youtube.com/user/DCDDesignAndMfg#p/u/14/YYN6MpcNBGs). Start at Time 3:15

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Greenwich Maple Man
09-28-2011, 07:43 PM
Lashers are nothing new to the industry there are a few guys on here that use them. Me I will stick to old school ties. It doesnt take very long at all to do it and its a heck of alot cheaper. I cant imagine how many more feet of wire it takes to use a lasher.

I always thought that old school taught that the wire was to go on top so as to hold up the line? Don't know, thats the way have always done it and works great.

Bruce L
09-28-2011, 08:59 PM
We did something similar with plastic binder twine once,worked great until the twine broke,be the same as wire breaking,lots of mainline dropped to the ground!!!!!

jason grossman
09-28-2011, 09:26 PM
i use the lasher wire all the time in my one woods and it works great. i have a tool i built myself to hold the wire. you just have to know the right sequence to putting in the fiitings and when to run the wire. also if it does break( not very often) it only loosens up a couple of feet on each side. since it is stainless i can roll it back up and use it again elsewhere if i take a line out. try that with wire ties! all that said i would never use ties again in my own woods!

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER
09-29-2011, 05:32 AM
Joe(TheMapleKing) ran a long run over a canyon a number of years ago and did this and it worked out great for him.

Can you actually wire tie 750' in an hour by hand???

ennismaple
09-30-2011, 03:32 PM
When we sold the contents of my father's business I believe the lasher went for $2600. We have some lines that are lashed. They don't hold as tight to the steel as the wire ties do. We had the option of lashing or wire ties and went with the ties. It is a bit slower but in the long run should make for a better product. To each his own...

MapleChaser
10-13-2011, 05:41 PM
I started useing a lasher last year. I went every 100 feet and put a wire tie around it just for safety. It is very easy to pick it up and set it back down to go around tree's. It takes longer to string the wire then to lash a run no matter what the length is. I bought mine on e-bay for 600 bucks. The only time I have to wire tie is when the line is around 2 feet off the ground. With the weight of the lasher it tends to be heavy enough to stretch everything down to the ground. The best height in the woods around 4 - 5 feet off the ground. I will never wire tie again. It is what I have found works the best for me
MC