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Flat Lander Sugaring
07-11-2011, 06:17 PM
ok I need every ones two cents, for a person who plans on doing probably a max of 10 cord a year both hard and soft( more hard wood than soft) how large of a wood splitter does a person need?

I'm looking at around a 22 ton gas units, wife has a friend who has one of those 5 ton electric units, ok let me have it boys:o

peckfarm
07-11-2011, 06:31 PM
max length?

Ausable
07-11-2011, 06:32 PM
ok I need every ones two cents, for a person who plans on doing probably a max of 10 cord a year both hard and soft( more hard wood than soft) how large of a wood splitter does a person need?

I'm looking at around a 22 ton gas units, wife has a friend who has one of those 5 ton electric units, ok let me have it boys:o

From my way of thinking - You have the right idea. I have an old 21 ton and we split about what You mention. It varies from Year to year. The little five ton electric would be more for a city guy - who splits a few face cords for the fire place. Was doing some big ash rounds last year and my 21 ton was working. Couldn't imagine using a 5 ton on those. .....

CBOYER
07-11-2011, 06:39 PM
Be sure to have a Honda Motor (even if its not made in U.S.), they are cheap on gas, reliable, and not noisy as B.S. 22 ton, is a lot sufficent, thats mean a 4 1/2 dia. hydraulic cylinder @ 3000psi. you probably look Northern tools?

Me i have only a 3 1/2 cyl on tractor 3 pts, it is enought, but slow, since tractor doesnt have those 2 stage pump.

Flat Lander Sugaring
07-11-2011, 06:40 PM
max length would be around 24", the 22 ton I'm looking at does upto 26"

Flat Lander Sugaring
07-11-2011, 06:43 PM
Be sure to have a Honda Motor (even if its not made in U.S.), they are cheap on gas, reliable, and not noisy as B.S. 22 ton, is a lot sufficent, thats mean a 4 1/2 dia. hydraulic cylinder @ 3000psi. you probably look Northern tools?

Me i have only a 3 1/2 cyl on tractor 3 pts, it is enought, but slow, since tractor doesnt have those 2 stage pump.

yep northern tools , tractor supply and lowes

KenWP
07-11-2011, 07:08 PM
I am from Quebec and split my wood the Quebec way with a hache.I haven't figured out how to justify useing a splitter yet.But now only having the use of one arm it might fly with she who has to be obeyed.

cpmaple
07-11-2011, 07:08 PM
I have a family member who just got one from lowes and works will. Cons of it are very small gas tank and motor is in harms way when you split wood if a chuck falls off no protection for the motor. I would look at tractor supply company same tonage for less dollars. cpmaple

lakeview maple
07-11-2011, 08:00 PM
We use one from tractor supply 22 to ,real nice when you have that big huge stuff and you can tip it up instead of lifting up the chunks.I couldnt agree more on the honda motor ,thing never quits and sips the gas ,we go all day on a tank. Al

500592
07-11-2011, 08:29 PM
We rent a quick split and if I were to ever buy one It would be a quick split and they are made right in massachusetts they are probably the fastest wood spouted out there and they will split some wicked narly stuff you should look them up

collinsmapleman2012
07-11-2011, 08:51 PM
not to steal your thread flatlander, but i was wondering if anyone knew of a good splitter that would accept wood up to 36"?

njburg
07-11-2011, 09:58 PM
The 27 ton Huskee that I got form TSC 3 yrs back already needs a new pump. I've only been splitting about 4 cords a year.

Ausable
07-12-2011, 04:53 AM
not to steal your thread flatlander, but i was wondering if anyone knew of a good splitter that would accept wood up to 36"?

That would be a long split (36") - Guess You want it for your arch. Most of the commercial splitters are designed for the 16" face cord wood - but - handle up to about 24". With all the outdoor wood furnace boilers going in - I would imagine someone has to be building them by now. Just haven't seen one yet. Would have to have a longer bed and heavier hydralics as it would be working a lot harder and would be a bit slower operating.

Flat Lander Sugaring
07-12-2011, 05:24 AM
That would be a long split (36") - Guess You want it for your arch. Most of the commercial splitters are designed for the 16" face cord wood - but - handle up to about 24". With all the outdoor wood furnace boilers going in - I would imagine someone has to be building them by now. Just haven't seen one yet. Would have to have a longer bed and heavier hydralics as it would be working a lot harder and would be a bit slower operating.

http://timberwolfcorp.com/log_splitters/specs.asp?id=19

Flat Lander Sugaring
07-12-2011, 05:25 AM
not to steal your thread flatlander, but i was wondering if anyone knew of a good splitter that would accept wood up to 36"?

http://timberwolfcorp.com/log_splitters/specs.asp?id=19

pretty impressive video
http://www.timberwolfcorp.com/images/howmuchforce.gif

maple flats
07-12-2011, 06:49 AM
I've been using a TSC splitter for about 20 years. Same pump, no problems but I am on the 3rd engine, all B&S. I do about 20 full cord a year, at one time it did over 50 cord/season.
However, it is SLOW. My next splitter will be a Super Split. Much faster, non hydraulic. I'll get the med size with Honda engine.

Ausable
07-12-2011, 08:33 AM
Thanks Flat Lander - The 36" Splitters are being made then.......One nice thing about being a Geezer is that No expects me to know what the heck I'm talking about anyway. lol. I'm usually about 20 years late with my thinking - But - have a lot of fun telling yarns to my Great-grandkids - They just Roll their eyes and shake their heads and wonder where old poppa gets all his crazy stories from........ Hey Guy -- have fun spliting - whatever you buy. The Kids should be using 12 pound splitting mauls - even on 36 inch stuff -- It builds character or so I was once told.............

C.Wilcox
07-12-2011, 08:38 AM
22 ton will do about 95% of all splitting you'll ever need to do. It's a great overall choice for splitting firewood. I bought a 35 ton SpeeCo because I end up with a lot of elm butts. I've probably run 15-20 cords through it and it's working great.

I really like the design of the Supersplit and it is blazing fast, but I always have to wonder if a person can really work fast enough to get the benefit of the increased speed. If I worked as fast as the machine can move I'd be exhausted in an hour or two at most. With two people I think it would probably pay off. I will say that when I called and talked to the owner I could tell he was clearly a stand up guy by the way he took the time to explain the limitations of the machine honestly. FWIW-there weren't many limitations.

Haynes Forest Products
07-12-2011, 08:50 AM
12" 16" 24" 36" Hydraulics are the same. Why would length have anything to do with it. Now deflection on the beam can be a problem when you streach it out. 36" isnt that long for a good ram.

Lew56
07-12-2011, 09:49 AM
My wood splitter is of Irish decent, stands 5' 9" runs several miles a day, and welds a very large 8lb. maul. Tons of pressure: not sure never have gotten her that mad to find out!! She does need a new saw, the ole McCulloch Double Eagle is about wore out.

peckfarm
07-12-2011, 10:40 AM
After 30 years with the old splitter we decided to go with the timberwolf. Quality is important. However, it is wicked heavy. I like the quality but there is no pushing it around from pile to pile. If one is handy sort the money saved on a TSC splitter could easily go to the new pumps, engines and controls. The other thing that I can't get over with the TSC, Wallenstein, Lowes and the other newer splitters is the axle running through the hydraulic reservoir. We run the rig through the woods and I don't see those thin metal tanks lasting that long through the brush and rocks.

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER
07-23-2011, 08:03 AM
Here's what I bought last year and it is and awesome splitter for the money and it is very heavy duty built. On sale now for a good price and with 76 reviews, it has a 4.9 out of 5 which is the highest customer rating for any product I have ever seen period. They also have the 22 ton on sale for $ 1299 now and it is a good machine with a Honda engine, it just doesn't have the commercial Honda engine on it. I have ran about 15 cords thru it in 2 years and some of it has been enormous knotty stuff and it splits it all without any problems.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200326290_200326290

raven4maple
08-02-2011, 03:00 PM
Have had a Timberwolf TW2 with 4-way wedge for twelve years with one minor problem, (water in gas caused carburetor to crack about six years ago in cold snap). Otherwise have replaced oil, filters and spark plug. Used more each year increasing from 4 to 12 cords. It is a bit heavy, but very reliable. The one i have looks more like their current TW-2HD offering rather than the current TW-2. I've not yet heard a Timberwolf owner talk down their machine.

On the ledge
05-20-2014, 08:01 PM
Figured I'd re-open this thread any recommendations or opinions on a splitter in the $1000 to $1500 dollar range.

Flat Lander Sugaring
05-20-2014, 08:41 PM
I wanted a timberwolf bad just couldnt cough up the funds, I ended up with a TSC 20 or 22 ton unit does everything I need it to do. Cost was around 950 plus tax and warranty was 1250 or so

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER
05-20-2014, 08:52 PM
Northern tools makes some great heavy duty splitters with Honda engines in the range. I have the 30HP unit. Extremely well built.

PerryW
05-20-2014, 09:42 PM
i bought the Husky 22 ton splitter they sell at tractor supply for $1000 and it works great. I have split over 100 cords of hardwood with it in the last 2 years and I haven't found anything it won't split.

djhcatony
05-21-2014, 07:36 AM
i bought the Husky 22 ton splitter they sell at tractor supply for $1000 and it works great. I have split over 100 cords of hardwood with it in the last 2 years and I haven't found anything it won't split.
I have the Husky as well. My first one quickly developed a leak in pump seal but Tractor Supply rebuilt 3 years ago and good as new. Highly recommend for the price!
Dan

BlueberryHill
05-21-2014, 11:11 AM
I have the TSC Husky 22T and it has been a good machine for the last 5 years or so. No problems I just recently bought a SuperSplit and man, is it awesome. The Husky is just collecting dust now. I have pulled it out once or twice to split some large rounds on the ground that I did not want to lift onto the super split. But the last couple times I had big rounds I just wacked them up a few times with an axe cause the axe was right there and the Husky was tucked away. Guess it time to sell or trade the Husky. Nothing wrong with it, but I wish I had just bought the super split in the first place. It rocks.

Birddog
05-21-2014, 12:17 PM
I got the Northern Tool 20 ton model the splits vertical and horizontal. I only split four full cords last summer (oak, ash, birch, popple, willow, maple). It worked surprisingly well and sure saves the back. I got it on sale for about 650. I would think a 22 ton would meet your needs. When pulling the splitter behind a wheeler the engine will hit the fender while turning. The unit doesn't have a long enough tow bar otherwise it has worked well for me.


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3GoatHill
05-21-2014, 01:13 PM
A little off topic. Anybody have experience with woodsplitterdirect.com? I'm trying to decide between a conventional stand alone gas splitter and a 3 pt. hitch splitter. Anybody have experiences using both?

twitch
05-21-2014, 05:00 PM
I bought a super split a few years ago and will never run a hydraulic splitter again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNHIXuqHJUM

maple flats
05-21-2014, 05:24 PM
I also have a Super Split. It impresses me every time I use it. We just "polished" the beam 2 days ago, by splitting about 4 full cord in about 3 hrs. I sold my old hydraulic 20 ton about a year after I got the Super Split, since it just sat there and wasn't doing anything except taking up space. Originally I thought I'd use it to split any the Super Split would not do, but I never found one it could not split. It has a cycle time just over 2 seconds and sometimes on tough splitting chunks I need to retract the ram and hit it again, but even the toughest piece that might need 3 or even 4 hits, the total time is still faster than 1 cycle on my old 20 ton. I find very few that don't split the first try. My old splitter was strictly a 1 man job, the new super split at times has kept 3 real busy, 1 bucking blocks, 1 splitting and 1 hauling the split wood away. I split, because it's the easiest part. My only problem with the super split is that we get wood split too far ahead and after 3 or 4 years it degrades if not stored under a roof.

PerryW
05-21-2014, 07:27 PM
No question the super splitter is awesome! (My neighbor has one). He says they also use significantly less gasoline than a hydraulic splitter. But I think he paid about $3,000 for his so it was out of my price range.

3GoatHill
05-21-2014, 08:53 PM
I think my mind's pretty much made up. That super splitter looks like the way to go. I guess I can make up for the price by selling all that extra firewood I should have, ha ha.

PerryW
05-21-2014, 10:21 PM
I think my mind's pretty much made up. That super splitter looks like the way to go. I guess I can make up for the price by selling all that extra firewood I should have, ha ha.

yeah, and to pay the two other guys to help you run it!

maple flats
05-22-2014, 05:04 AM
While I sometimes have a 2-3 or even a 4 man team working the wood, most often it's just me or my grandson. You don't need more than 1. If the blocks are ready ahead, just don't shut off the tractor you use to haul the split wood away while splitting, it won't idle long enough to save fuel by shutting it off and then restarting. If you do have help, still only have 1 person do the splitting for safety sake.

lmathews
05-22-2014, 05:07 AM
Where is the best place to price a super split?

BlueberryHill
05-22-2014, 06:50 AM
Best place to get it is direct from the manufacturer if you are close by. Go to www.supersplit.com. You could also call them up. They might have a distributor near you. I had 2 distributors right near me that I contacted, but I got the best price by just going to get it myself from supersplit in Mass. I got the J model with the Honda engine and it was $2700 CASH.

Machinist67
05-22-2014, 08:22 AM
check out this splitter which is the same as the super split.
http://www.drpower.com/power-equipment/log-splitters/rapidfire-splitter/

maple flats
05-22-2014, 05:44 PM
Dr copied the Super Split after their patent protection ran out. There's a basic feature DR missed. The, flywheel weight, Dr uses 55# flywheels x 2, the super split uses 72# X 2 on the model J and 100# x 2 on the HD model, I have the HD with the 6.5 HP Honda. Don't get me wrong, DR makes lots of fine equipment, but they failed to recognize the benefits of the heavier fly wheels.

Machinist67
05-22-2014, 07:22 PM
Good point well said. This is where reading the fine print on the spec is all the difference!
Once you put those flywheels in motion you have a lot of energy! (inertia)

handtapper
05-22-2014, 09:24 PM
I'd your comfortable with the unit the super split is the way to go. Its faster and the wood all comes out even. The splitter dictates the woods size by splitting right through the knot unlike the hydraulic that splits around the knots. If your not comfortable with the flywheel units nothing beats a timber wolf tw5 its twice as fast as a home depot splitter and 100x more reliable but its like 6000$. It has auto return and you can alter the stroke from like 14" to like 24". I see lighty used tw2 and super splits for 2000$ or less on craigslist reguarly. There's a guy I've rented a tw5 for 100$ a week on craigslist and I split like 30 cord with it. Done it three years now. Cheaper than owning one unless your going to pick away at it or have multiple jobs.

SeanD
05-22-2014, 09:38 PM
22 ton will do about 95% of all splitting you'll ever need to do. It's a great overall choice for splitting firewood. I bought a 35 ton SpeeCo because I end up with a lot of elm butts. I've probably run 15-20 cords through it and it's working great.

I really like the design of the Supersplit and it is blazing fast, but I always have to wonder if a person can really work fast enough to get the benefit of the increased speed. If I worked as fast as the machine can move I'd be exhausted in an hour or two at most. With two people I think it would probably pay off. I will say that when I called and talked to the owner I could tell he was clearly a stand up guy by the way he took the time to explain the limitations of the machine honestly. FWIW-there weren't many limitations.

The Super Split looks amazing, but I do all of my splitting in the vertical position. That way I can roll and push huge rounds into place rather than lift them up onto the machine. I can also do most of it sitting in a chair. On the other hand it is nice that it can push the split material into a cart or truck.

Sean

PerryW
05-22-2014, 10:10 PM
Sean[/QUOTE]The Super Split looks amazing, but I do all of my splitting in the vertical position. That way I can roll and push huge rounds into place rather than lift them up onto the machine. I can also do most of it sitting in a chair. On the other hand it is nice that it can push the split material into a cart or truck.

[QUOTE=SeanD;257491]

9744
Yes, that is also an advantage to the 22 ton Husky (available at tractor supply for $1000). I can tilt it into the vertical position in 5 seconds and split those big pieces. Over 100 cords in two years and never had one I couldn't split

sugarsand
05-23-2014, 03:19 AM
The Super Split is impressive but I need something that can do sugarwood too, maybe 30 to 34 inch. Also cant give up my hydraulic lift arms, they are back savers on those big heavy blocks.

western mainer
05-23-2014, 05:47 AM
In 2005 we got a iron and oak, http://www.ironandoak.com/commercial/index.html Yes it was a lot of money but has paid for it self. We have the 30 ton, love the log lift we have alot of large logs.
Brian

nymapleguy607
05-23-2014, 06:38 AM
I have one built by Northern tool, it is one of the largest they make, I have the 4 way wedge and the log loader on mine and I love it. Beats the heck out of a single wedge hydraulic splitter, and will split anything. I believe it will split up to 30". The super splits look nice but how do they perform with alot of knots? A lot of the videos show them splitting wood that could be done with a maul.

BlueberryHill
05-23-2014, 07:48 AM
I have no problem with knots on my Super Split. Real big or nasty knots can require 2-3 hits with the ram but even those 2-3 hits are faster than 1-cycle with my TSC Husky. Maybe it's not for everyone, but I love it. Someone above also mentioned the DR clone of the super split. I would say, so your research on that one first. I think arborsite.com has some threads about it that steered me away. Not much savings over the Super Split. IMHO worth it to pay just a little more and get a product that is totally proven and reliable

maple flats
05-23-2014, 10:52 AM
Whenever I get some chunks that are too heavy to lift, I have used the excavator and tongs, but usually my 19 yr old grandson just sets them on the work table. One of the many features I like is the height of the work table. I stand up straight to move the block back and forth as I split.

SeanD
05-23-2014, 11:13 AM
9744
Yes, that is also an advantage to the 22 ton Husky (available at tractor supply for $1000). I can tilt it into the vertical position in 5 seconds and split those big pieces. Over 100 cords in two years and never had one I couldn't split[/QUOTE]

Perry, does the Husky come with that hitch or did you have to pay extra to have that installed?:)

Sean

BlueberryHill
05-23-2014, 11:21 AM
Husky comes with a hitch

9746

Logs too big to lift onto the super split have been getting treated with this first..... Awesome.
9747

PerryW
05-23-2014, 01:59 PM
9744
Yes, that is also an advantage to the 22 ton Husky (available at tractor supply for $1000). I can tilt it into the vertical position in 5 seconds and split those big pieces. Over 100 cords in two years and never had one I couldn't split

Perry, does the Husky come with that hitch or did you have to pay extra to have that installed?:)

Sean[/QUOTE]

Since it often lives at my woodlot, I took the hitch off to make it harder for someone to steal.

GeneralStark
05-29-2014, 08:00 AM
Husky comes with a hitch

9746

Logs too big to lift onto the super split have been getting treated with this first..... Awesome.
9747

I second the Fiskars X27. Just got one to replace an old maul and the thing is awesome. I personally prefer to split most of my wood by hand, especially the large pieces that would be a pain to get up on a splitter. The Fiskars handles pretty much everything except for some of the knottier or twisted hardwoods, but most of the wood I have been splitting goes faster than it would with a splitter.

At this point I have been renting a splitter for 65$/day when I have enough tough chunks for it to be worth it, or borrowing one from a neighbor that I have a barter with.

Between sugaring and home heating we burned about 9 cords last year and 90% of it was split by hand.