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barkeatr
05-17-2011, 01:51 PM
i could use hot water in my sugar shack. I would like to hook it to a sink...anyone run a heat exhanger thru thier chimney or anything like that to have steady stream of hot water ?

RileySugarbush
05-17-2011, 03:56 PM
That could be pretty dangerous unless you really know what you are doing. It could flash to steam and really hurt someone. I pretend to know what I am doing and I wouldn't try it!

Many of us get a couple of gallons an hour of hot water as condensate off the preheater in a hood. You could run a loop of water through a heat exchanger in the hood as well and hold it in a tank.

Do you have pressurized water in your sugarhouse already?

motowbrowne
05-17-2011, 06:48 PM
I won't try to pretend that I know what I'm doing, but I know some folks who do. A friend of mine has a heat exchanger that is retrofitted into his woodstove at home. To deal with the risk of flashing to steam it is plumbed into a hot water heater which has a safety blowout valve. I think it came as a kit. I think it was pretty straightforward to install. If you are interested I could ask him about it, unless someone on here chimes in.

adk1
05-17-2011, 07:27 PM
what are you looking for hot water for. THere are alot of hot water style heaters used for camping. they have a reservoir and run off of the 1lb propane tanks. They heat up fast. Most have a shower head on them but I am sure you could retro it to a faucet.

barkeatr
05-17-2011, 08:26 PM
THANKS for comments..I know that emergency pressure relief needs to be very close to heat exchanger..if your friends came from a kit it must be set up that way.

thanks for the comments. I have light presured cold water coming in from a spring. I need it to clean things as i go and to help clean filters.

i may look into the propane fired units suggested, thanks folks.

barkeatr
05-17-2011, 08:31 PM
i looked up the camp hot water heaters....they are great..this would do the job...thanks ADK. this one was 114 bucks.

http://www.hotcampshowers.com/eccotemp_tankless_water_heaters

motowbrowne
05-17-2011, 09:47 PM
As soon as Adk1 mentioned those small propane units I realized how perfect that would be, great idea. Our local nursery sells them for about 125 bucks, and they seem great. I think the ones she sells need like 8 psi, but they seem like a great way to get hot water out there.

brookledge
05-17-2011, 09:52 PM
If you want hot water put a hood and preheater o nthe flue pan and you will have all the hot water you want
keith

barkeatr
05-18-2011, 06:02 AM
THANKS motow, i think i have 8lbs pressure from my spring, it has a pretty good head pressure for gravity..I like the idea of hood to harvest hot water, but many times i need the hot water when the boiler is not running like for clean up..




As soon as Adk1 mentioned those small propane units I realized how perfect that would be, great idea. Our local nursery sells them for about 125 bucks, and they seem great. I think the ones she sells need like 8 psi, but they seem like a great way to get hot water out there.

lastwoodsman
05-18-2011, 06:24 AM
I have had the same needs and am currently setting up a small on demand lp hot water heater. This way you can have hot water when your arch is not fired up, anytime of the year for cleaning.

I just purchased one of these. If you go to their e-bay link you can see how they mount it on a hand truck with a 20 pound propane tank.
I am adding a rv pump to provide pressure. I will pull water out of a 50 gallon plastic food grade drum.
On demand water heaters have become common in camping and outdoor hobbies, small cabins.
http://www.eztankless.com/index.php/products/tankless-water-heaters/ez101-outdoor/

Check out their web site and watch the videos.

Woodsman

hotfire
05-18-2011, 06:53 AM
I put a square tank high on the wall behind my stack . 30gal plus or minus . I ran a hose to fill it. I have ( 2) 3/4 copper lines out of the tank. One about 3/4 up from bottom and one on bottom. The one on bottom goes to the bottom of stack to a tee one side to drain tank or get water other side of tee goes into stack ( steel pipe )
then i put (2 ) tees and (2) 3/4 inch pipes in stack up and back out at level of other pipe on tank . Cold water drops , hot rises .

On the top pipe returning to tank i put a tee and ran it to my sink. Very hot water!!!!!!!!! You could put a third pipe out of tank and this would be a little cooler. You need to make sure you have water in pipes at all time when boiling. No need for pressure relief call my if you would like 207-225-2680

adk1
05-18-2011, 08:14 AM
Well, I am glad that this Rookie could help out with a good idea for once!

WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER
05-21-2011, 06:35 AM
Lowes has a small wall mounted unit if you have plenty of electric service available.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_294798-1136-AE12_4294856715_4294937087_?productId=1082203&Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity _sold|1&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl_Electric%2BTankless%2BWater%2BHea ters_4294856715_4294937087_%3FNs%3Dp_product_prd_l is_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1

adk1
05-21-2011, 06:40 AM
Lowes has a small wall mounted unit if you have plenty of electric service available.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_294798-1136-AE12_4294856715_4294937087_?productId=1082203&Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity _sold|1&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl_Electric%2BTankless%2BWater%2BHea ters_4294856715_4294937087_%3FNs%3Dp_product_prd_l is_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1

One of those would be cool for me. I already have running water to my sugarhouse.

PerryW
05-22-2011, 09:43 PM
I fill a sap bucket with water and set it so it leans against the stack. It is piping hot after about an hour of boiling. I dipper hot water out to wash filters then replace it w/ cold water so I always keep the bucket full.